Lets discusse the diffornt between these 2. I know Muscaria is a legal shroom and produced similar effects as Psilocybin, but Psilocybin is the most popular and recreationally used. I have read that Muscaria are poisonus and are deadly at a curtain dose. Muscaria can be bought on the internet, but are they safe and do they produce good effects?
They are way different. They dont produce similar effects. Amanitas are safe if you ingest them properly Amanitas give a much more mild trip/high, pleasnt relaxation, mild drowsieness/sedation- feels like your floating with some odd trippy effects. Only eat the red skin and the flesh directly under it. discard the stem and gills- they have little psychoactive chemicals and can make you nauseous. Bake in oven at 170-200F to convert the Ibotenic acid into Muscimol (the good stuff)
^also wipe off the red spots on top. IMO- best effects are obtained with the combination of cannabis. Dosage- aprox 2-3 medium sized caps (potencey varies)
Yeah. Psilocybin (4-Phosphoryloxy-dimethyltryptamine) is a psychedelic tryptamine. Muscimol is a selective GABAa receptor agonist. Not even a psychedelic. It makes you feel weird really. I didn't get much effect, but I couldn't eat much of it either. It's quite disgusting. You need to eat like 10-20 grams of dried cap material for a good trip depending on what you're looking for. Psilocybe mushrooms require eating 1-7 grams of material (entire mushroom) depending on the trip you're looking for and species. Very different effects from both. Amanita Muscaria and like one or two others: http://www.erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas.shtml Most of the members of the Amanita family are extremely poisonus. Psilocybin/Psilocin containing mushrooms: http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms.shtml And yeah, mixing Amanita with weed is pretty great. However mixing a lot of things with weed is great..
Muscimol, the active ingredient in Amanita mushies, is a delirient, like Gravol/Dramamine/Dimenhydrinate/Diphenhydramine (all the same thing, available legally as anti-nausea pills, so if you wanna know what this kind of effect feels like, head down to your local pharmacy or supermarket).
go with the magic ones if your lookin for a trip. i ate 9 grams of aminitas and all it did to me was make me hot and cold at the same time. and my mouth flooded with saliva the whole time. and alot of sweat. waste o time
geneity and ghost of rat know whats up. I've done both, and psylocin mushrooms are much better, but amanitas are still worth doing. amanitas can be smoked for a cannabis-like, but more earthy, high. rough dose conversion is one bowl of amanita (cap and stem mixed) = one bowl of schwag.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_mushroom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_mushrooms If you want a psychedelic experience on a fungi, take Psilocybin mushrooms. If you want a dissociative experience on a fungi, take Amanita mushrooms.
I have 1 experience with amanita and several dozen with psilo mushies. Since magic mushroom effects are well documented, I'll just add an anecdotal experience about amanita. I did these in Vancouver, BC with a good friend. He had powdered a quarteronce and mixed it with chocolate. We split the chocolatebar(more of a chunk). About 45 mins into the experience, I started to feel very "up." almost like after espresso. We were enjoying the spring cherry blossoms and walking in the park. It struck me that I felt almost floaty and the already beautiful setting seemed moreso. I remember being amazing by the flowers and koi and ducks. Overall, the experience wasn't profound in a magic shroom trip way. It was however very pleasant and lasted a few hours before I started coming down and we smoke pot. The effects were subtle; they could be best described as floating and clear headed with enhanced senses. Probably due to the low dose, I suffered no upset stomach. The only negative I would report is excessive salivation, but even this, at the time, seemed pleasant enough. I've never done higher doses, and don't know that I would. It was pleasant, but not profound.
yes, its a lot like schwag. similar potency, similar high. except amanitas are a much more earthy high, if that makes sense. I found it worth smoking, but prefer to smoke amanita pantherina, which are more potent. the majority of my amanita smoking experience comes from a one-week tolerance break from pot- I just smoked the amanitas instead, about five times a day.
What if you ate both regular psilocybin mushrooms and amanitas? the effects are quite different from my experiences with both but im not sure if it would be ok to them together. Im mostly scared of the very different substances in each kind mixing together when i eat them and causing more extreme possibly dangerous stomach discomfort. has anybody tried both or can anybody answer my question or do i just have to man up and try it out working my way up with the dosage?
ive done both together ,, then to im a nut... but they go fine together, psilocybin over powers the ammie.. so you aint even gona know it..
A friend told me about bouncingbearbotanicals.com and the sell Washington State Amanita muscaria--Grade A+ Caps for $40. I'm thinking about ordering some. Is that the best kind of amanita to ingest? Just because it says A+ doesn't mean it's the best kind as far as tripping so I want to ask you guys on what I should buy. Thanks.
buying them online is no way to experience them.. they could be selling you dried Russula Emetics for all you know, any nut can make a web site..
You mean these kind? http://www.flyagaric-amanita.com/effects.html Here, they are saying that some sources claimed Fly agaric is deadly poisonous but fo. The Fly Agaric is the one from Siberia that you're talking about, right? Have you taken it? Is that picture similar to the ones you've ingested? That link also says that the most deadly mushroom in the Amanita genus is Amanita phalloides, more commonly known as the death cap, or deadly white cap. http://www.flyagaric-amanita.com/effects.html This link above states: "The effects are often described as unpleasant, and inexperienced users may easily interpret them as signs of a "toxic ecstasy". In the older literature, fly agaric is portrayed as a deadly poison, and peoples were urgently warned against its use. This notwithstanding, the toxicological literature does not contain a single case of lethal fly agaric poisoning; "there is no evidence of fatalities" (Garnweider 1993)" So it seems rather safe.
