Hi! SWIM need your opinion on the best solution for the problem based on your experience: Objective: hardcore fun with close friend Whats on the consideration menu: 1. 2c-b 2. 5-meo-mipt 3. MDMA 4. Viagra 5. Combinations of the above. A friend of a SWIM had MDMA+viagra after peek and it's lovely, emotional 2-3 hours marathon. From SWIY experience what would be the best to have multiple performances? Not looking for too much visuals so please estimate the dose for 160lbs. Tank you!
MDMA + Viagra, or 2c-b (+viagra). I'd go with just straight 2c-b for sexy time, have an energy drink to SIP on in case theres performance issues. 2cb is the sexiest substance ever.
Statistically 2c-b is on the top the list, but question is if it's because moxy is less popular/available? MDMA usually makes it hard to orgasm SWIM. The rumor has it one can go multiple times on moxy. Is it so in case on 2c-b? Also there are some reports of 2c-b+mdma (smth like 16-20mg + 80-120mg). Is it a good idea?
MDMA is my favorite, The touch, emotion and connection for sex is pure bliss. ~200 mgs 5-meo-mipt will likely be the most apt to bring out the freak in you. ~10 mgs 2cb has good tactile qualities, but visuals can be kind of distracting. ~20-25 mgs I have not used viagra with any of them and have functioned fine.
We don't typically use SWIM on this site, especially in discussions not related to acquirement of stuff. I think moxy is probably more available than 2c-b as it's not scheduled in the US. I've only ever found one source for 2cb but seen moxy sold here and there. Moxy tends to have body load problems not conducive to sexy time, as well as being very picky on dosage. 10mg, good time, oops 5mg extra, universe dissolving, type stuff. I wouldn't read too much into someone saying they could go multiple times on psychedelic x, it probably says more about the lover than x. 2cb+Mdma is exceptional . . . only did it once in low dose of both and no opportunity for sexy time but might be incredible. only know that 2cb is for sure minimal/no performance issues IME.
Looks like 2c-b 16-20mg to start and maybe at t+2.5h 80-120 mg mdma. Plus viagra as a backup plan. GF should be fine with mdma 150, makes her wild As to moxy - maybe some other time at 5-8mg with a good scale on hand. I'm concerned about possible negatives and don't want to risk them. Will post the experience later next week.
Yup - 2C-B is the best for sex - it's awesome MDMA is a close second. I found if you get the dosing right, there's no need for viagra - for me at least. If I take a normal dose + top-up or slightly higher than normal dose for me (so 150-200mg), then I can get floppy cock syndrome. I find 100mg MDMA is perfect for me, it almost acts like viagra - allows me to climax and makes me able to go multiple times. I think 2C-B was used as a viagra substitute in small amounts originally? 15-20mg 2C-B = awesome time :sunny:
It's probably not a chem I'd mix due to the potency but IME moxy has very benign physical effects. It causes body temperature fluctation like the other two do but other than that and maybe some stimulation it's fairly easy on the body. It's a easy trip to navigate too it can create some fairly Mind Fucking mental images but I've always had a grasp of reality on it. There is also foxy methoxy which is 5-meo-Dipt which is more renowned for negative physical effects and risks, that may be what you're thinking of writer but people do respond to these chems differently. 2cb was made illegal and scheduled in 1994, viagra didn't hit the market til a few years later. 2cb was sold in headshops as a libido enhancer though. @seeker: If you do explore viagra, try and let us know if there are any interesting psychoactive effects from it. I've read some get some mild psychedelia from viagra, although that probably may not be the focus of your experience.
of those drugs, i only have experience with 2cb. i had sex on it just one time. i remember it being quite great, but i was distracted a bit by the visuals and psychedelic head space. i usually take over 30 mg b/c lower doses don't seem to do much to me. i feel like i'm not good at noticing or appreciating subtle "rolling" type effects (some say that is kinda what low dose 2cb is like. and the one time i tried 150 mg mdma it was pretty mild.)
Well, here's the report T:00 - Me and GF took 12mg 2c-b T+1h - Still nothing. Just a hint of some feeling for me, but nothing much. Me and GF took ~130 MDMA each T+2h - MDMA kicking in. Nothing unusual. t+2.5h - The roll started. GF very excited. Me - rolling mild, problem with erection - took 25mg of blue pill. Took another 70mg MDMA, GF - 50mg. All talking and touching/etc. Some alcohol. t+3.5 - t+5.5 - Another 25mg blue pill and lot's of fun on come down! Some more fun later and in the morning. It looks like I should take 25mg of 2c-b next time to see how it works as half of the dose did nothing that I could notice. Also I would like to try moxy at ~8mg. Still, MDMA is the really good if you want to talk to your partner to discuss what's on your mind and have a blast after that! It looks like I should start 2 hours earlier then my GF and than we will be in sync
It's much better to take the 2c-b on the come down from the MDMA at t+3 I've found it's much more pronounced when you do it that way around. If you dose both at pretty much the same time, then you get stacked come ups which can be quite overpowering. Not unpleasant, just energy draining.
Also, avoid alcohol for sexy time, in general, and especially when already dealing with multiple substances affecting sexual performance MDMA on it's own can wreak havoc with erections, why mess with whisky dick on top of that
I had some vine, just 2 glasses Next time will try 2cb 25mg only. Or (if I have the scales that are precise to 1mg) 8-10mg 5-meo-mipt. My GF want to have some freaky times as MDMA nights start to feel the same Can anyone confirm that moxy have some positive effects we are looking for?
a higher dose of 2cb should do it. i've taken 27.5 mg before and felt next to nothing though, so you may need a significant dose. but 25 mg for a lot of people is plenty
Yes, I told you in my initial response it's the best suited to bring the freak out in you. I don't find the sensation of touch quite as pleasureable on Moxy as I do on MDMA, eventhough it still feels great but the headspace of Moxy is more oriented to a freaky, lusty experience rather than the extreme sensuality of MDMA. I'd recommend stashing some water close by for after ... as your breathing may get pretty heavy on Moxy.
Fix'd GB.:2thumbsup: I have taken to picking GALLON bottles of water in preparation for a trip and putting them in the bedroom because nothing is better than just after blowing your load and while you are dripping sweat just drain and chug straight from a gallon bottle of water; and the sensation of it flowing down your throat while you are tripping and still in the afterglow of the sex is like nothing else.... MDMA and 2CE did not do it for me and my current GF the way that 4-ho-mipt and regular old shrooms were able to enhance things. but Nitrous Oxide... will combine well with the other drugs and psychedelics poppers / [amyl nitrite?] feels like mess with my heart too much and I am always afraid to use them in combination with other drugs and possibly get bad interactions... It's just not something I can picture myself liking when on psychs, exact opposite of nitrous oxide that's something for you to consider to stock up on for even when you do not have time to use other enhancements, nitrous oxide charges + receiving oral = everyone must do this before death
I think you misunderstood, although your paragraph has good info. I am making a specific disclaimer in regards to Moxy due to it's stimulating and particular qualities. Similar to how you made the following disclaimer... BTW... Isobutyl Nitrite and MDMA go amazingly well together for post orgasm!! I tried Isobutyl Nitrite once on it's own for sex tho and that led to erection difficulties, good thing poppers only last a few minutes.
Ah that's right. I will have to check the availability of isobutyl nitrite in my area and see how that works out
Another report. We've tried 25mg 2c-b each. At around T+2 I felt something (hard to describe, but it was pretty mild). Also I felt a little horny while my SO couldn't notice anything at all (or it was just too mild for her). So around t+2.30 she had MDMA and... At t+3 - she was in heaven - euphoria off the charts, much higher than ever before. At this time (plus another 30 min) I had recovered 2 times without any pause. Amazing! I've decided to take MDMA just to be on the same page with her so we had fun for another hour and after that MDMA did to me as always and after some unsuccessful attempts we went to sleep. Morning was great as well Overall the best so far, even it looks like 25mg is way too little for me/us to have significant impact - just very little visual distortions to the geometry. Next - 5meo-mipt. I believe 5-7mg for to start. Please advice if it's about right. Also does it have effect on Mrs mood as well. Also - is it safe to have mdma after that - like t+3 to t+4 of the effects are not there? (It looks like we might have high tolerance as with 2cb and MDMA). Thanks! Another option would be candyflipping.
Perhaps attempt masturbating on MDMA if you have that much to spare before introducing it back with your SO. The reward from MDMA with that connectedness is unparalled IME. Yah it stirs female libido, there was A female on here who called moxy "the ultimate female fuck me drug" I think you should go for the 7-10 mgs range. I've read mixed reviews on combining MDMA with it, some say its amazing, some say its weird, there have even been some negative interactions. Have not mixed them myself.