Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seed Dosage

So, I've ground up 50 seeds and put them into capsules that i can take just like pills. There are approximately 3 seeds in each pill, and I was curious if anyone knew what effects a 24 seed dosage was like. I understand the effects and the length of the trip and I am prepared. I would just like to know if the dosage is TOO high. I've read tons of experience reports but none that go over 15-18 seeds. Thanks for your input :sunny:

 

24!? Holy shit...I think I'd die. Literally. 7 made me feel totally terrible for about an hour, with extreme nausea and stomach cramps. There then followed an extremely strong psychedelic trip, which was quite amazing, and some rather unpleasant leg pains from Vasoconstriction.
It was definately worth it, but 24 is really overdoing it I think. (Unless you have some really weak strain or something?)

 

Nah, back about a year ago i took 400+ Morning Glory Seeds and had a very great all night trip haha. And I know this is COMPLETELY different dose wise. But I do have a trusted source so i know they're good seeds. But I didnt know how intense a 24 seed dose would be effect wise, since I have the amount inside 8 capsules, i figured it wouldnt be hard to down.

 

Yeah, holy shit not doing 24 seeds -.- had a REALLY bad trip on 12 seeds so ya, bad idea. But I was in a very bad setting at the time, although it seemed ok at the time. Didnt think things could get so ugly. But ya, to everyone that will read this post, WORK YOUR WAY UP. And also make sure you have a trusted sitter. too many people around you while tripping on HBR is terrible.

 

What made it bad? Just the side effects? Or the trip itself?
I'm always uncomfortable tripping around other people, I find the best way is Alone.
What method did you use to ingest the seeds, out of interest?

 

I would do 24. HBWR is something you don't want to underdo (under 16 isn't worth it), but don't overdo it either. Something like 30 would be overdoing it.

The most I've done is 18, and that was absolutely insane. After about 8 hours I just wanted it to end though, and even after that there was painful vasoconstriction.

24 will be a hell of an epic journey. Go for it.

 

I can only assume you had some weak strain of seed, or a very high tolerance to LSA. Like I said earlier in the thread, 7 gave me a very intense trip with intricate open eye visuals....not to mention the extreme physical discomfort.
I would never do as many as 24....I could imagine that doing permanent damage.

 

True, but there are always going to be absorption problems with HBWR. Unless you can grind it into a very fine powder (which is almost impossible without industrial equipment), your stomach and intestines will be in misery trying to digest that stuff. Because of that I don't think the nausea is worth a few visuals and the nausea and discomfort accompanying it - if I'm going to experience that, then I want my brain smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.

 

Pan galactic gargle blasters are on me then

I agree though, I won't do HBWR seeds anymore....mainly because of the vasoconstriction.

 

I once did 600 MG seeds, the sheer volume of ground up seeds was astounding. However I must say I digested it pretty well, even though it was heavy on stomach for couple of hours. That was replaced by very intense trip (into Infinity) pretty quickly though. I can't imagine bigger discomfort from 7-10 HBWR seeds, the volume of ground up seeds would be 10-20 times less than 600 MG seeds?

 

i don't think ill ever eat seeds ever again. i've had nice trips on both HBWR and MGS seeds but the nausea i've had on them is something else... especially morning glorys, utter pain and suffering for hours!! luckily the trip afterwards was really good.

last time i took them was 2.5 years ago and i still can remember that devil seed feeling like it was yesterday.

 

Possibly more discomfort yes, but it depends on how much nasties are in HBWR compared with MG - and I suspect there are more. I only know that HBWR has a harmful outer coating, and that it has a much higher concentration of LSA.

 

I hope you do a trip report mate, LSA's are pretty interesting and can produce a valuble trip, terrible short term side effects uke: but i'm more inclined to say it's worth it. Morning glories were the seeds that turned me on and i'll always appreciate that

 

The high dose that erowid reports is 12+ seeds for H.B.W. 24 is definitely too many. From all I've read it seems that H.W.B. seeds are easy to over do it with. I've only ever tried the M.G. and I had some success with that but the last couple times I tried to eat them I was overcome by nausea just from the act of eating them and threw up immediately. The nausea I had the previous times just gave me an aversion to the seeds. I would think that if you take double the highest dosage that erowid recommends the nausea would be overwhelming and the trip would be extremely powerful if you could actually keep them down.

 

If you want a trip with the intensity of 24 seeds, the nausea shouldn't matter too much, as nausea is a factor with just about any dosage and doesn't seem to get too much worse with increased dosage. And even if it does cause you to projectile vomit, it'll feel oh so good.
Vasoconstriction is a problem that increases with increased dosage. It's also much more serious than nausea. To counteract it you might want to exercise the days before the trip and drink lots and lots of water. Le Ganja would also help, but the trip with the seeds alone is MUCH clearer IMO.

 

where can i get these and are they legal in the U.S.

 

I think I'm gonna try 6 seeds, ground up, sometime soon. Hopefully this nausea control medicine will help...>.>

 

Most online botanical sources... You just want to aim for fresh, non-treated seeds (Organic). And be sure to get the Hawaiian variety because there's many other varieties, and take AFOAF's word for it, they're much lower quality, for tripping purposes (USUALLY), but cheaper.

They're legal to posses, just illegal to misuse and extract. But getting them is as easy as buying rice ahaha.

 

what sites do you guys use to buy it? and how does it usually come packaged