seed outer shell was picked off/scraped off as best as possible, seeds were crushed with hammer, put into glass, covered with citric juice for 15 minutes. seed/juice mix was gargled for 20 minutes, and then spat out stomach cramps, nausea, headache, malaise, almost feverish in nature was felt shortly after and lasted for several hours. i was happy, because it indicated the process worked. now just to see how well the positive effects come through. cannabis was smoked 3 hours after ingestion and we achieved liftoff. the experience was interesting in that rather than being fascinated by the actual content of the experience, i was fascinated by the intensity of it. the content was not deep at all, it felt like i had taken acid or mdma or something in terms of the body high, and the visuals were some light trailing, colors intensified, and general just *WOW* when looking at anything. I felt electrical energy surge outward from my spine through my entire body like an explosion outward, and i felt it radiated into my landscape (slight ego softening). this was the peak of peaks, and its hard to say how long it lasted, time dilation was extreme, extreme. 5 minutes distinctly and positively felt like 20 minutes. this was to persist as one of the strongest effects (mostly from cannabis but greatly potentiated). i would often just crumble into a ball from the overwhelming physical sensations, grin on my face, or just an opiate-like gawk at the strength of the sensory data. and that's it. Very impressive . . . I will try 20 seeds on friday and post here.
ive yet to try the HBWR yet but im hoping ill have the chance this summer. so sublingual worked nicely? ill def have to try that. how was the nausea compared to eating them?
noticeable but not even close to being enough to require vomiting or any chemical help; cannabis removed it completely. In fact I realized it's not really a 'nausea' per se it's more of a stomach pain, like when you eat way too much ice cream or something. A true bellyache.
I am blessed with LSA. For some odd reason it hits me VERY hard. Last time I did it, I did a CWE with 1000 MG seeds. I had nausea for about an hour, and then 2 hours later I smoked a bowl... and started tripping complete face. Full blown colorful psychedelic visuals, patterns, and fractals. And I also had a mind fuck, very similar to that of DOC. The trip was also very controlable, but at the same time very intense.
I ate 18 HBWR a few days ago, but the stomach pain and nausea got too severe and I was pretty much just trying to distract myself and forget that I was tripping. When I looked up though, my room was like melting and it was pretty intense. Near the end when I gave up trying to STOP tripping, I had a good mental trip. Maybe I'll wait to trip again until I have some pot available to me to smoke to ease the stomach pain. I was miserable most of the time, but it was an experience I would LOVE to have if I could manage the discomfort.
Yeah well you can reduce the bad effects by 90% by not swallowing the seeds, just holding them in your mouth for 20 minutes and spitting them out. You need to increase your dosage by about 50% though since you lose a lot this way (but you gain comfort ). Also I should write here that after smoking the same cannabis that I smoked the night of this post I have concluded that most of the effects were from the cannabis. I got even higher than this the next night, with just the pot, and last night, i got even higher, also just from the pot. It's stupid. It's not even recreational. This isn't the type of ganja you smoke at a party. This is more akin to a ketamine trip. Turn off the lights, turn on the music, take a few hits, and fall the fuck down on your face. I'm gonna not go overboard with the pot when i do 20 seeds to make sure i'm not too befuddled and can gauge the seeds' effects.
be careful, bro. from what i've read 20 seeds is kind of pushing it. i've even read trip reports from experienced trippers and even they say 9 or 10 seeds is a little high. just make sure your in a comfortable environment, and remind yourself that your tripping, because from what i can gather, 20 hbwrs is gonna take you for a ride.
thanks, but your advice kind of assumes i'm gonna freak out as soon as i start tripping lol. i have some experience in altered states, it's not a concern, and if it happens i'll be ok
not really, but you may run the higher risk of entering into bad-trip territory. And anyone whos been there will tell you that a bad trip paired with physical discomfort is by no means pleasent
well, im not exactly sure what to say. just basically id recomend you have a neutral attitude. if i say to expect the worse, your either going to have a bad trip or it wont be as intense because of your expectations. also, if your taking 20 hbwr seeds, the last thing your gonna worry about is smoking weed. the seeds will do plenty. ive had intense trips on lsa and dxm and im usually one to push things. i like to trip fully and gain something out of it. im just trying to look out for you and let you know that 20 seeds is going to be an intense dose. i realize my frequent use of the word intense might not be comforting, but i just wanna let you know what your in for so your not caught off guard.
I appreciate your concern, and I am very aware that 20 seeds may be intense. That's why i'm taking 20 the cannabis is primarily for nausea, the synergy is just bonus
please tell me how this goes as i really need to know if it's worth it to find some HBWR seeds instead of ingesting a shit ton of MG all the time.
I got some fantastic cannabis, the most visual i've ever gotten, and there is not a cloud in the sky on this cool april day, its beautifully sunny, i'm going down to my campus today. 20hbwr are now soaking in orange juice and will soon be gargled for 20 mins. hope i havent dont something i'll regret
hi ingested 5 seeds a few years back and it was without doubt the strongest trip i ever had and ive had a few. i shall not bore u with details but i had something similar to a NDE as it got so intense that my mind shut completly down.i really thought i was never coming back.
You guys are lucky....I have HBWR from 2 sources, and have tried them all kinds of ways, and they barely affect me at all for some reason. Not even negative affects much...which is weird. Maybe both sources had bunk...but I've gotten other stuff from both and it was fine....so I don't know.