I can prove the existance of God. Right now.

ok, so this is what you are saying: Because we think it is expanding, it is expanding? wrong. this is why: that map is light eradiating from stars that were dead for hundreds of billions of years, WHICH is measured by humans. we are outside of the "group" or section of decaying masses that are part of the center of the universe. earth is estimated at 4.55 billions years old. the milky way galaxy is estimated 9.5 billion years old, ie. radioactive dating. the universe is estimated to be 13.5 and 14 billion years old. add these factors together.

 

nice fallout 3 pic

 

Added together it makes?

 

an ever-changing and expanding universe was the implement.

 

So there is a vast and apparently empty space of absolute nothingness the Universe continuously expands into?

Really now?

 

Sorry for being dumb. This proves what?

 

no. there are measured gravitiational fluxes in the universe from OUTSIDE of the universe, WHICH means that there is a force, i.e. strong, weak, nuclear energies. pushing or pulling the universe, which gives it its shape.

 

Your saying that "god" has never been disproved but what about all the gods in Polytheism that are no longer worshiped?

Or by "God" do you just mean the one you believe in?

Are you really saying that you believe all atheists live miserable lives?

 

that the big bang theory is a very feasible series of events that occured.

 

Ahhh Gravity. So God is the still unexplained gravity?

 

i..idk im an atheist and im pretty happy. just give me food, change of clothes and a blanket.

 

undefined, robin, i.e. the observer effect.

 

If there is a God, who wants to follow someone who has fucked up so badly?

 

what do you mean?

 

Do believers agree that God has done well with his creation and how did he amuse him/her/itself before we came along to toy with?

 

LMAO all you're doing is trying to twist my words around to stress your atheist argument which obviously has no backbone.

What does any of this have to do with ancient Gods?? Shit in all seriousness, they haven't been totally disproved either. You pointed out the process that makes rain happen, I pointed out the fact that that process obviously doesn't always prove to be correct when weather predictions are still not totally accurate despite all the technology and knowledge people have. Please explain to me why supposed concrete facts don't hold to be true 100% of the time.

And how did you come to the conclusion that I believe all atheists live miserable lives when I clearly stated there are 2 kinds of atheists I'm aware of, only one of which live in misery?? You're obviously looking for an argument. If you want one, I'll give you one. But you're gonna have to start coming to the table with some facts of your own instead of questioning everything I say when you don't even have counterarguments based on your own logic.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ju5GUrSyns&feature=related

Always though this summed up religion quite well.

 

I missed this post the first time around.

That makes sense with the balloon analogy and all but a balloon is a tiny piece of matter in this massive Universe that has plenty of air to expand into. To say the Universe is expanding the same way is the equivalent of saying this Universe is a small part of something larger. That is the only explanation that makes sense since balloons don't expand into thin air.

 

I pointed out other gods that people have believed in the past to ask what makes the gods they believe in the present any different from them.

For the third time the Bergeron Findeisen Process is not a means to predict weather but an explanation as HOW a type of weather (in this case precipitation) works.

It has nothing to do with meteorology.

O.k so you say that there are two types of atheists in the world and I suppose you know this how?

Maybe the balloon analogy went just a little over your head.

the universe for what we understand of it is expanding into empty space where this space came from is not yet known.

You claim it was made by a supreme force in the universe but have zero proof to back up the claim.

I say it is not yet known, so therefor the burden of proof would be left to you.

 

Are you still waiting for finite instruments to prove God's infinite existence? Subjective experience has to account for something.