Now i have done salvia a couple times in my day, but one thing i was wondering about was DMT.. I have heard it is mind shattering and quite intense, now my experiences with Salvia have been intense, but i was wondering, what is the difference in the two? i know DMT is stronger than Salvia, from what it sounds at least, but how much stronger is it than Salvia? any info would be great
"[The feeling of doing DMT] is as though one had been struck by noetic lightning. The ordinary world is almost instantaneously replaced, not only with a hallucination, but a hallucination whose alien character is its utter alienness. Nothing in this world can prepare one for the impressions that fill your mind when you enter the DMT sensorium."
I don't have any experience with DMT and very limited experience with salvia, but from what I understand; If salvia was a Glock 19, DMT would be a M136 AT-4 light anti-tank rocket launcher.
I have read tons of reports dmt reports sound very very simmilar to salvia reports however salvia reports seem to range deeper into the strangest unknown territories where fear and astonishment know no bounds, while DMT touches pleasure centers more often than not. I think salvia has the same effect on a wider area of brain than DMT has but the experience of both is dose related, allowing for set and setting.
I admittedly have no experience with DMT, however ... I have heard from people who have tried both Salvia and DMT that Salvia is a more "overwhelming" and "rewarding" experience than DMT, although DMT is definitely way up there in powerful experience. I've also heard that 5-MeO-DMT can provide an experience "about equivalent to" a Salvia experience. Again, this is all second-hand testimony.
salvia can actually be more intense(frightening) than DMT. it is more confusing and scary. dmt is more powerful(visually) but they do two different things. its like comparing herion to cocaine...they both are intense in their own way. 5meodmt is more of a body rush intense while salvia is more of a mind fuck. i think salvia is really the most intense drug i have done. it is the only drug that i get nervous every time i smoke it. i smoked some 20x extract(about half a hit) last night on 15mg of 2ce. suprisingly it was alot easier to control/handle on 2ce than not. i was really nervous so i only took a small hit. salvia is some weird shit...
I have to agree that salvia can be scary...hell it scares the shit out of me sometimes but I still come back to it. The amnesia thing pops up sometimes and it is really hard to remember where you have been. I try to stay one level below that. I have been places or seen things that i simply cannot relate to normal reality and can find no way to talk about or describe. I believe the amnesia is like that from early youth before the processing parts of the brain and language take hold. You witness events but cannot "remember" it becasue there is no way to relate to it. DMT has never effected me in that way. No matter how weird it gets I can still find a way to relate to it or remember it.
I personally have no experience with DMT, but everyone I know that has done it says that if you have to ask questions, you are not ready to do DMT (not that anyone ever truley is READY)
when i do salvia, i feel like my mind has wandered into dreamspace and alternate dimensions... when i do dmt, i feel like a feed of energy from another plane of existence is interrupting the feed from this plane.
Yeah salvia scared the living shit out of me the second time I took it. It felt as if I was being sucked into the couch and couldn't breathe, and my poor friend sitting beside me got clawed half to death because I was trying to keep myself above the surface.
DMT is a religious experience. Salvia is trash IMO, so I can't even see how you can compare the two. Salvia is a shallow puddle murky with bullshit while DMT is a vast clear ocean filled with the knowledge of life.
^^ i think you dont understand salvia if you have that opinion. probably never experenced a breakthru im guessing