Sexual Waiver of Liability

Discussion in 'Free Love' started by buzzgunner, Nov 15, 2023.

  1. buzzgunner

    buzzgunner 180 grains of diplomacy Lifetime Supporter

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    Has anyone (ladies, that is) ever tried this? We all know that various types of birth control have varying degrees of efficacy, but none are 100% perfect. If you had a "stable" of entertaining lovers and found another that you wanted to add, but he wouldn't join in due to fear of pregnancy, could you try offering him a "Waiver of Liability"? I'd think that, if you got an attorney to draw up a fairly bullet-proof legal document that would exempt the man from any responsibility, should an unwanted child result from recreational sex.

    So, a) has anyone ever tried anything like this, b) would you consider trying it, and c) for those legally inclined, would such a document event be legally binding?

    Inquiring minds want to know! (If I get enough feedback on this, I'll post a follow-up explaining why I'm interested.)
     
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  2. TimNu

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    Such an agreement would almost certainly never hold up because a father’s child support obligations are owed to the child, not the mother. So she does not have legal standing to waive his parental liability.
     
  3. Andy Schumer

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    Some men might not care at all what happens, while many would want nothing to do with getting a “random” woman pregnant; and be the absent father. I knew such a guy who was offered to impregnate a woman and he signed papers to free him from any responsibility, support and visits. A dream for some, but no-go for many.
     
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  4. Bocci

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    Hmm, an interesting thought exercise. In earlier times, maybe it would work. These and later days, I don’t believe it would hold up or even be allowed. There is de-jura and there is de-facto. A “bullet proof” contract is no match for the latter. “The rule of law” was an interesting societal exercise and fun while it lasted. It was killed, however, by an almost innumerable proliferation of unnecessary and ridiculously biased laws as well as selective enforcement thereof. We are devolving now to a more third-world legal system where the only law is power and whatever it allows you to get away with.

    Further, given your tagline of “180 grains of diplomacy,” I suspect that you belong to the one group that is abso-fucking-lutely, never-ever-ever, allowed to escape the consequences of their actions, their ancestors actions, and better yet, since the narrative matters far more than all truth, the consequences of other peoples’ ancestors actions.

    Today, the general rules (subject to further change on a whim) of sex are this;
    1. The woman alone chooses if, when, where, and how you have it.
    1.1. If she changes her mind about any of those attributes before, during, or at any time after the sexual act, you are a rapist.
    2. If conception occurs, the woman chooses whether that life will ever get to breathe its first breath.
    3. If she chooses to let it live, she chooses whether or not you have access to it.
    4. You pay her.
    5. If you vocally, or even mentally, disagree with any of the previous rules, you are literally-hitler.

    Now, if you’ve got this far and you also have a 3 digit IQ, you probably realize that this was a nice bit of tongue-in-cheek fun for me. Like all humour, however, there is at least a grain of truth in it. And I do seriously suspect such a contract as you’ve suggested would not hold up in our society.
     
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  5. Jenna1995

    Jenna1995 Promiscuous and Daring!

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    So, from a sluts perspective, I am on the pill but I know it’s not 100%. I don’t pursue any lasting relationships with the guys I fuck, I don’t exchange names, and I rarely ever have a second meeting with any guy. So if I ever did get pregnant, I’d have no idea who the daddy is…so I wouldn’t be coming after anyone for support.
     
  6. buzzgunner

    buzzgunner 180 grains of diplomacy Lifetime Supporter

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    Jenna, you are the most emancipated woman I've ever known. You're amazing!
     
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  7. Lara Snow

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    As TimNu said the father support is owed to the child.

    I'm a single mother from two different men. My firsts' dad provided, even though we were never a couple. He still cares for her even if he lives in a different country. That experience as a single mom from my first child was hard but I persevered. Now I have a second, whose father doesn't provide. Because as Jenna pointed out as an hypotetical scenario for her, in my case it happened. I do not know who the father is. But I'm glad it happened because I always wanted a second before my first was too grown they had a huge age gap among them so I went ahead with the pregnancy. If anything, my first daughter's father is a kind man with a nurturing soul. He let me know he can be a father figure to my second and will love her as his own since she was the blood of the most precious thing in the world for him.
     
  8. Jenna1995

    Jenna1995 Promiscuous and Daring!

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    Thank you! Though there are countries where I would be executed on national tele.
     
  9. buzzgunner

    buzzgunner 180 grains of diplomacy Lifetime Supporter

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    That would be like smashing the Hope Diamond or spray-painting the Mona Lisa!

    I wish I'd met you in person back when I was in my 20s or 30s. *sigh*.
     
  10. curiousgeorge

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    Yes, for sure, but do keep in mind that this would have most likely been a one time thing, right Jenna?
     
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  11. Longzi

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    In the United States even such a waiver does not mean they are excluded in paying child support. They would need a signed affidavit presented in court to relive them of this responsibility.
     
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  12. Jenna1995

    Jenna1995 Promiscuous and Daring!

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    Yes, I fuck alot of guys and hardly ever repeats…so it removes connections and almost no knowledge of who the guys are.
     

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