I wanted to get an idea of what a good deal is for shrooms And how much/many should you do on your first shroom trip (I've had exp. with LSD, so would I want to do a little more than the general first shroom trip intake?) And everyone says to grow them, I'd consider that after I tried it, but why would I grow them if I don't know whether or not I like them..?
Eat an eighth for your first time, that should run you 20-30 depending on how easy they are to come by in your area
20 - 30 mins? I thought shrooms were more like acid. Like you tripped for hours... Or is that in the higher dose? I'd rather do that. And yeah I can EASILY get them, but to be honest I don't know a good price when i see one.
20-30$ per eighth, that can range drastically on how many mushrooms you get, but to set an "average" I'd say you'll get anywhere between 4 and 10 mushrooms depending on size, don't settle for all stems, even though they contain active alkaloid goodies, you should get at least an even cap to stem ratio. As mentioned, mushroom trips are about 5-6 hours total. Usually you'll feel them working in about 20-30minutes on an empty stomach, key, EMPTY stomach. Then it's usually 2-3 hours of plateau psychedelia followed by 2-3 hours of comedown which for me is very gentle, even pleasant afterglow. As far as acid comparison, they are similar in the sense that you will trip mentally and visually, but I find mushrooms effect mental thought process and emotion much more than acid. Language and movement may be a bit more difficult as well, but they are definitely well worth trying!!!
I'd go for 3 grams if you've had experience with lsd, if theyre good it'll last up to 4 hours with a potentially really interesting come down conversation afterwards if you're with someone, I've generally paid around 7 bucks per gram.
alright great responses! sounds like an interesting experience, I really want to try it because people always seem to lean to one side between LSD and shrooms...
They both have differing desirable effects, both can be amazing visually and mentally. I find acid is more cleanheaded but the comedown can still be pretty stimulating and hinder sleep for quite some time even after the main trip subsides. Mushrooms on the other hand have a warmer, chilled out come down (at least for me) and sleep is possible not too long after; definitely love them both :2thumbsup:
sounds like you need to do more research on mushrooms just like the kid you were telling about LSD. mushrooms vary in potency just as much as LSD, if not more. it's kinda like with weed - you can get insanely potent weed that will get you high in one hit (or shrooms that make you trip "balls" with just 2 grams) or stuff that is pretty low quality (and might be sort of underwhelming with 2 grams or more) an eighth is almost guaranteed to be pretty strong though. try to get a feel of how strong they are if you are buying them from a trusted friend. i took a half eighth (~1.75 grams) my first trip. 2 grams or so is a good starting point.
If you haven't done LSD over 3-4 tabs, shrooms will seem a hell of a lot more intense. But that is judging from my experience. I had four LSD experiences before I tried mushrooms. The mushroom trip was so different from anything I experienced on acid, but hey it might just amount to set/setting (which I'm sure you've heard of). The good thing about shrooms is that you can basically know that you are ingesting psilocybin. You never know with blotter. The best price in my area is $40 for an eighth. Someone tried to sell me an eighth for $60.. fuuuck that.
$40 an eighth is kinda normal if you don't know nicer people. most people on here would say that expensive, but they have the hook-up. $35 is more fair and $30 is a deal IMO i don't deal with shrooms much. i'm one of the ones who prefers acid. shrooms aren't "easier" like most newbies seem to think.
Most cubes weigh .2-.3 dry so an eighth is usually about 10-15 dried mushrooms. If you have tripped hardcore on acid and feel that you can handle your shit than an eighth is probably a good starting dose. Mind you your going to be tripping pretty hard on that dose. If your not that comfortable about tripping really hard id suggest 2 grams or so. $40 for an eighth? Holy shit thats retarded when I use to sell mushrooms id charge 20 to friends and 25 to everyone else. 120-140 for an ounce 400 a qp. They are pretty cheap to grow. With my tek at the top of this forum it will probably cost under 150 including spores to grow 3/4 of a pound
$20 an eighth around here. I have done both LSD and Shrooms twice each. I prefer shrooms out of the experiences. Seems like more of a mental trip than acid, which I enjoy, but some may not. They can also produce BEAUTIFUL visuals, but not as elaborate as LSD. Again just from my little experience.
Shrooms differ in potency? Wow... I heard somebody say: their reason for preferring shrooms was you always knew what you got, unlike LSD where the potency can differ from like 50ugs to like 300... Oh yeah, I plan to read A TON MORE about it, I don't know shit... haha I did want to know good prices tho. so basically if I find $20-$40 for an 1/8th sounds like I'll do fine. Probably plan to trip on acid a little more before I try shrooms, mainly cause I need to learn more about it. But thanks for the tips guys!
Yeah shrooms are kind of like weed. There is bammer and dank, but the bammer still gets you high :2thumbsup: Shrooms are less variable than acid in my experience.
With the exception of three strains(Penis Envy, Albino Penis Envy, and Penis Envy Uncut) of shrooms potency doesnt differ very much with shrooms. The differences in "strains" usually equates to differences in your trip. Some are more visual some more body buzz, some more mind trip etc.
^^^^i know you used to grow shrooms...but the potency of p. cubensis varies a lot. it's a biological organism. there is variation. show me ONE living thing where every member of a species is exactly the same.
How about domesticated species like roses, tulips, corn, apples, tomatoes and marijuana? Potency varies alot in wild mushrooms but most strains that are indoor cultivated have been domesticated over countless generations of selective breeding(namely people print the biggest most robust mushrooms to pass on to others) and the potency is fairly stable from one mushroom to the next especially if you clone a particularly nice specimen. Really this is what most people should be doing...using spores to get the first generation going and then work with clones from then on out. I have a large fridge in my basement full of slants of different strains I have cloned over the last ten years and two wild strains that I have been working to domesticate over the last year (currently on generation 13 and the strains overall performance gets better with each generation)
Actually the variation is like I stated above. In the effects of the high. There is potency variations but not very much. Like graipsilo said most mushrooms are domesticated with size in mind. You could domesticate for potency but that would be a real challenge without a mass spectometer. Size is easy to domesticate for. Look for the big fruits and use those prints on your next generation. There is about 120 "strains"(I use this word very loosely mushrooms aren't plants you cant mix a with b to get c) of cubes. Ive grown out about 60 of them. Including several freshly domesticated cubes. With the exception of the PE "strains" there isnt much potency difference. The reason the PE strains are much more potent is cause PE is a mutant and mutant mushrooms are more potent than regular ones. This applies to any domesticated mushroom. I have no clue about wild cubes. Im not in a place to acquire them