Standardized vs. non-standardized

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by Therefore..., Sep 25, 2004.

  1. Therefore...

    Therefore... Antidentite

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    I'm planning on getting a gram of 10x salvia from iamshaman.com and i'm trying to decide between the standardized and non-standardized. For those of you who have had both, which do you prefer? Did you notice a great difference?

    Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. redgreenvines

    redgreenvines Member

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    standardized -
    the preparation gives you an ability to size your dosage. it is usually a very good even prepration and is shipped nice and dry ready to smoke.
    the effect can be very different if you double or triple the dose, with standardized you have a better chance of comming to grips with the salvia effect and how much gives which effect since salvinorin is evenly spread through the material.

    non-standardized is also very good but you usually need to dry on your own (usually it is shipped wet or too early) and you may need to mix it for a long time to make the extract evenly spread through: even the good suppliers are not that careful with non-sandardized - often referred to as crude salvia extract.
     
  3. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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  4. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    redgreenvines hit the nail on the head.

    Standardized means the extraction and replacement of salvinorin-A was careful and precise.

    Non-standardized means that the extraction was more crude and hasty.

    With non-standardized, it is possible to get a variable amount of salvinorin-A; this means you could get a little under what standardized gets, or a little over what standardized gets; and there is no real way to tell unless you happen to have a basement laboratory all your own.

    Hikaru would suggest non-standardized if you are worried about pricing (standardized is usually almost twice as much as non-standardized, because the process is much more involved), but if you are trying to do a study of the effects of salvinorin-A, or you otherwise want very precise amounts, you might want the standardized version (or you could also go straight for the ... ah, Hikaru cannot remember what it's called. The liquid version of pure salvinorin-A. Though, that is a LOT more dangerous).
     
  5. Therefore...

    Therefore... Antidentite

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    Thanks for the explaination, very informative. Now, which one do YOU prefer and why?
     
  6. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Non-standardized, because it is cheaper. =)
     
  7. Foppful

    Foppful Member

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    Well, the site I get it from is only 4 bucks cheaper for standardized. I get a gram of 10x standardized for 14 bucks plus 5 for shipping. This is a great deal.
     
  8. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Hikaru suggests you go for 5x instead. He's heard that if you hit 10x hard enough, you can go immediately into the 6th level of salvia experiences, where you could either lose consciousness or thrash around and injure yourself. Afterwards, you can't remember what happened, because you were too far gone.

    Just take care if going for 10x. It might be TOO much, especially if you are going to be smoking out of a bong.

    Good luck though. =) And remember, always have a sitter.
     
  9. Therefore...

    Therefore... Antidentite

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    In that case, I'll get some 6x instead.
     
  10. Foppful

    Foppful Member

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    A bong hit of 10x is way too much. I find that a decent (not huge) hit of 10x sends you right into level 5, almost in a split second. It's intense, but very worth it.
     
  11. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Aye. Hikaru used 6x.

    Hikaru is new to using bongs. =P But, from what he is read, one powerful hit from 5x or 6x extracts is more than enough to do the job. ;)
     
  12. brokenwingz425

    brokenwingz425 Member

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    I'd go with standardized, The doses are specifically measured so you know exactly how potent its gonna be, unstandardized could vary in potency
     
  13. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Standardized is likely a wiser choice if the cost is not an issue (due to close prices or whatever reason). Not to mention that the extraction process is more precise and the salvinorin-A is more evenly spread among leaves.
     
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