String Theory and M Theory, Physics, Quantum Theory, and Learnable Science

Did you know that there are 6 (or 7) dimensions beyond the first 4 that we commonly know and understand?

Are the first four peace love unity and respect? Not quite.

The first 4 common dimensions are:

1. Length
2. Width
3. Height
and one is not spatial, but is instead temporal (no, not tempura)...

4. Time
I almost want to stop there. Why in the heavens is 'Time' among the others?

String Theory and M Theory propose additional dimensions.

 

String theory is interesting to me. That is true, and I don't think anyone can change that about me. It is part of my being! My heart and enthusiasm love the idea of something beyond the realm of reflexive or innate understanding.

What is the relationship between matter and the universe and the forces that govern existence? Do they change? Do they affect each 'dimension' (which is a weird term but that is how the information is organized) the same? Well, what about the temporal dimension?

Are gravity or centrifugal force responsible for what is encountered in the 5th or 6th dimension presented by quantum physics in 'string theory' or 'm theory'?

If there are other forces with more explanations, what might they be?

How does matter behave in the absence of these forces?

Space is a vacuum, and if gravity is responsible for forming spherical planets it's fascinating! What happens in the absence of gravity? Do planets still form?

That. That is amazing! That is incredible! That is fascinating!

There is so much to think about there. But do we have permission to think about this?

There is a sacred knowledge dance for such. >_<

We have to be responsible with that knowledge! But what could be more important to know?

 

It is interesting further to explore and understand entanglement. Is that a play on words? Is it a pun?

It either relates to the 'strings' we talk about when there are alternate forms of matter,
or it uses the idea that units of matter like electrons, neutrons, protons, etc. related are 'entangled', which just serves to examine that they are inseparable regardless of distance.

 

Does the soul have an atomic presence? It's perhaps willful to wonder such. Are the atoms and ions of a soul related to divinity in a heaven on another plain?

According to this, it's certainly possible! It's possible based on the science of physics. I think that's what string theory, m theory, quantum mechanics, love in the metaphysical context, and entanglement serve to explore.

 

The realities of the classrooms where we first understood this are perhaps what can make or break the mold for a physics-interested student.

The subject matter leans into the unknown in a meaningful way. I think that is exciting!

It's more exciting to talk about it, and there really is no more a qualified conversationist than your physics professor!

But there are also fascinating YouTube about this. I've seen one such video with an Oxford grad student throwing math onto a board like he's done it a few times.

 

The poll question is almost rhetorical.

This subject is notoriously difficult, and I asked GPT a few questions about the nature of higher dimensions since these two theories are related to that.

It is frustrating and difficult to conceptualize without a really profound explanation. What are we talking about?

Essentially, the upper dimensional levels of the two theories propose to exist. They do this out of mathematics.

The numbers in a sense prove that these notable additional dimensions to reality really exist!

And that is exciting.

It also requires a degree in physics to approach without getting a headache, being demotivated, or completely losing interest.

The complexity involved has to do with mathematics that I didn't study.

 

And time is the outlier. Does time effect other dimensions? Well, the first several are length, width, and height. I would argue that time does not exist for these first three, but I am not a physicist. Perhaps it exists for the other 6 or 7. I would say that it is not a dimension if it were not already stated.

And in the other dimensions, is there time? They are compactified and difficult to analyze and witness from our perspective. How does a Calabi-Yau manifold factor in? Is it just the shape of a compactified or curled-up dimension?
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String theory was proposed to tie in the many unexplained observations in the universe.

Is it just more "magical thinking" not based on anything real in order to help fill in a few important physics formulae.

No doubt there are many things beyond human perception and understanding that exist regardless of our abilities to comprehend them.

Just as an ant has no concept of what lies under the ocean waves, not even of the concept of an ocean nor a wave, we can only guess at what lies beyond our human veil, but we can never know or experience it.

 

Mzzls

 

It's fun to look at the picture and sort of phase out...

I remember 85 million years ago when dinosaurs roamed the earth,

You could put a music CD into a Playstation:
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And it would create an abstract visual display. And it was cool like a secret song on an album you loved! =-) I think Nirvana's music had that, but I don't remember which album; RIP Kurt Cobain.
But what is the picture talking about? To my artistic sensibilities, it looks like entanglement!

inseparable though they may be, some string theorists (people have specialized in string theory and I think M theory has its basis there) argue the thing has broken down! (EDIT: I just saw a video saying in fact M Theory is the basis for string theory; shows how much I know).

The math behind it has been argued to be infallible. But we struggle to describe what we cannot perceive from our perspective.

And lots of discussions use terms that are opaque. But I think what the new scientists would like to present is an argument that would replace string theory altogether!

 

Maybe it's time to stop using metaphors to describe these kind of things, as metaphors hide the true nature of reality.

 

That's exactly correct!

What I wanted to do when I made the thread was explore a better vantage point from which to understand all of this quantum stuff!

What is a good reference to describe why time is like length or height? ^_^

It isn't brain surgery, but it does present a break from the traditional conversation, which might expect me to accept that other dimensions are just "curled up" or something even less informative.

What they aren't telling you is "this is difficult to explain without mathematics" and "I don't think the underlying math is a prerequisite course".

Quantum physics is very 'theoretical', but that doesn't mean we can't explain it. Take an office hour and you might find out you are in love with physics and that nothing else will do!

 

It is all "theory"............so still open, interesting for me personally.......is what idears we come up with(science/physics/philosophy)

Even Einstein.........said his "theory s" would be disproven as science(math) evolves

Personally i suck at math/science......trying to understand(learn).........i just like flowers

Mzzls

 

Quantum physics is theoretical! And while the video aims to disprove something, it's intriguing to remain.

I am a degreed graduate of community college. Perhaps that isn't enough. I should go for a bachelor's degree in quantum physics!

It's sort of funny to realize that while we may be interested and introduced early on to String Theory and M Theory, it's probably true that not only is it completely unrealistic to explain without mathematics, but also that the underlying math for much of quantum theory is not a prerequisite to the course that opens the discussion; you sort of need that office hour to be current and arguably to remain interested or for there to be motivation and interest to continue.

Philosophy is so much about priorities. I think there is some philosophy given by a person's 'religion', so is there a choice? What your priorities are is determined by your religion, as is evident with every lane change and every decision made at all of life's intervallic formulae.

But ethics may prescribe one thing where 'emotional honesty' may suggest something else; wait and signal or scream and change lanes!

I have to set a priority at safety and let emotional honesty slip through the cracks. That makes my philosophy less natural, which is conditioned less to 'letting go'.

Is ego part of priority? It doesn't have to be. But the underlying thoughts are not part of the prerequisite.

 

So is history(my interest)...............also mostly "theory".............people wiser then us pondering about something?



String or quantum...............who knows...............history in the making?


Mzzls

 

Entanglement, if I'm not mistaken is a feature of what is known as particle physics!

I mentioned how two particles are charged and seek unification by their basis in nature within the concept of entanglement. This probably is related to particle physics! I'm not sure how much of it is theoretical or 'quantum' and I don't know very much.

And Galileo is in the video!

 

A college physics professor once told theoretical physicist Richard Feynman that his students didn't understand quantum physics to which Feynman replied that he didn't understand it either. Physics is a rabbit hole that few people are willing to go down and even fewer people can understand.

To quote Kay from Men in Black

1500 years ago, everybody "knew" that the earth was the center of the universe. 500 years ago, everybody "knew" that the earth was flat. And 15 minutes ago, you "knew" that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll "know" tomorrow.

As we advance our knowledge the theories change. We will understand more in the future. Dark matter will be able to be calculated. Entanglement, string theory and all the rest will be understood by the common person.

I majored in physics with minors in math and chemistry. I have an IQ above 150 and I can only get glimpses of understanding it.

Mankind will get it figured out, but probably not in my lifetime.

 

I have read a few articles about dimensions and such. One article claimed there are ELEVEN dimensions: Four on this side of the speed of light, Four additional dimensions on the other side of the speed of light, and three additional dimensions that connect the other eight.

Sounds like Wavy Gravy after smoking too much ganja, though the author is/was a quite qualified physicist of international stature.