How about the bible riots of 1844.......the No-Nothings despised the Irish Catholics and accused them of holding women hostage in their churches, raping nuns, and strangling babies. The No-Nothings also beat, tarred and feathered, and killed Catholic Germans and Irish. Allow me to quote a great Republican: I don't know what immigrates you think are importing political tyranny. And I guess you never heard of the Molly Maguires. We seem to be seeing a resurgence of the No-Nothings...along with the KKK, and NAZIs. I believe "The Genius" is largely responsible for that.
No this is not correct. I have no idea where you think this. Well yeah I do but that is more your personal attempts at making an apple an orange. It is not at all wrong to allow anyone unskilled into our country. PROVIDED they come here to try to change that if in fact they are unskilled. There are also many skilled immigrants that come here. Trump made the politically incorrect label of those from shithole countries. If you wish to make those Italian or Poles or whatever do so by your own words. Only you did that he did not. Unless you are an American Indian, which I am not, we all got here from immigrants. Like you apparently relate to, my forefathers came here, worked hard and made a good life for themselves. So if you want to be offended by my views, I could really suggest you get professional help. Your hatred for Trump is going to make you crazy. I'll say one thing for him, he has shown just how crazy the liberals are from losing against him. I find you highly offensive but in a general way not in a personal way against me. I said I would support a fund to send back those that are unhappy to be here, and complain about how this place treats them. There are groups of Americans that think they are being treated horribly. They have been screaming it for decades. Lets start with them. We can deport immigrants if we ever grew the balls to do so. We can't deport Americans that are just unhappy about the way they have been living for generations blaming everyone but themselves for how they turn out.
So you Trump supporters want to insult liberals and say liberalism is a mental disorder and you also want liberals to remain silent and take the abuse?
I am in no way afraid of immigrants taking my jobs. In fact they work harder than large groups of Americans here. I am afraid of the constant outflow of money to support the ones that come here, don't work, have babies and become a financial drain on what we already have here draining us. As to your minimum wage argument, we can agree to disagree. Show me a model where raising the minimum wage to $15 works and I'll show you as many examples of where it doesn't. Every time I have seen the minimum wage increased, what follows is the rise of prices all around, to negate any gains it was meant to address. Pay them more, the cost of everything goes up. The only ones that it cost more, are the ones that are buying the goods and services that those making minimum wage provide. What will happen to those that make $15 currently that are higher than minimum wage jobs? Now you have to raise their wages. It is an ever escalating cost to produce everything. Bottom line, get skills that allow you to make better than minimum wages. McDonalds should not be your career path if you intend to make hamburgers your whole life. I personally love immigrant workers that are willing to work. They BITCH far less than any other employee I have. They do the job, don't complain and show up for work. If they find another job somewhere else, I wish them well and draw from the vast pool of the rest waiting for a chance to work. No hard feelings whatsoever. Now force me to hire them, and then force me to pay them $15 an hour and I stop hiring. End of discussion for me.
The Libs have expected that from the Republicans for about 8 years. LIke it or not (and I don't like Trump), they have a voice now. So you can either sit down and shut up, and let them fuck it up on their own. Or yell and scream and escalate the hate and see how that turns out. Either way you have 4 years to at the least to get over it.
Hillary during her campaign calling Donald Trump supporters Deplorable. There are about 1000 links to it. I picked one for no particular reason. There are plenty more. Hillary Clinton Calls Many Trump Backers ‘Deplorables,’ and G.O.P. Pounces She later attempted to retract the statement realizing that it wasn't very PC to say. True or not it set the tone for things to come.
If she can call a Republican Deplorable and you find that accepatable, then don't be upset if they call liberals something just as inflamatory. I don't give a fuck what you call them, as long as you don't give a fuck what they call you. It can't go one way. I call them the same thing that the Dems called those that elected them. Disenfranchised and ignored segments of voters. Obama drew in a slew of them, now Trump has. If you can call the Trump supportes rednecks, then they can call Democrats niggers. You can't have it one way. If you wish to agree with the hateful labels, then be prepared to receive them.
That's what I was saying about the Libralism is a Mental Disorder thing. Michael Savage wrote the book on overt insults on liberal people. It can't go one way! If you are going to talk about farmers, don't talk with your mouth full!
An off topic remark... this thread certainly has legs, and lasting power! It's like a horse that's been fed oats Now back to your regularly scheduled programming
Seriously? At the height of European immigration in the 1800s the Irish were devoutly catholic, women didnt have the right to vote, and no one could walk around openly homosexual. And no one integrated back then, that's why places like New York have distinct neighborhoods even today, because every group of immigrant sought out people from their home countries and kept to their own little enclaves.
She isn't a Trump supporter and she's always been respectful of those who don't agree with her political views, which I think is the whole point. We should all strive towards civil discourse.
Okay, I'll try to bring all this back on track. You don't feel Trump should restrict unskilled workers into the U.S. Am I correct? You think Trump's remark about shit hole countries was merely bad wording "politically incorrect" nothing more? You feel Trump has not degraded past immigrates by his present stance on immigrants? You think liberals are the crazy ones in this country, not Trump or his supporters, or you at least think the liberals are just as delusional as Trump and his supporters? You think that any group of Americans who think they are being treated horribly should be "sent back" with the use of tax funds? Did I get all that right? Would you support Trump if he attempted to "send back" any group of Americans who think they are being treated horribly? Would you support Trump's merit immigration plan? If you do where would unskilled workers rank in regards to their merit for immigration?
Kind of a strawman you got there. Catholicism is just Protestantism's retarded uncle. Did the Irish migrants as a whole actually do all of the above, or is it just accusations? Because you can find plenty of hard evidence of Middle Eastern migrants participating in Taharrush (which translates to rape game). The Arabic gang-rape 'Taharrush' phenomenon which has spread to Europe | Daily Mail Online Everywhere Islam predominates, political tyranny exists. Maybe if left wing media outlets would stop giving these morons a platform, we might not be seeing a resurgence. When can we PLEASE stop making stupid people famous?
She didn't call them all deplorables. You seem to be okay. I think she was talking about the racists like Baldnballess.