The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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  2. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Where's the "hard evidence"?
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    "Tyranny" is a relative concept, but I don't think of Jordan, Indonesia, Tunisia, Maylasia, Bangladesh, Bahrain, Lebanon, Kuwait, and Morocco as "political tyrannies".

    Are right wing media outlets like Breitbart exempt?
     
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  3. NotMyRealName

    NotMyRealName Members

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    1. I think all of our immigration policies need to be reviewed. If an immigrant is able bodied and plans to come here to work, we should allow them to. If they have diseases that may bring health problems that require we pay huge amounts of our resources on, we should evaluate them as a restricted choice. If they wish to come here and claim to want to work and then don't we should send them back home. If they are skilled workers that offer more value then we should give them higher considerations. Depending on that skill and our needs.

    If they are criminals in their home country they don't get a free pass into ours. We should have the right to determine if they are rejected it not. If they come here and commit crimes, regardless of thier family status they get sent back. With the family if they chose.

    2. Yes I think he could have used a better choice of words than shithole however I do understand why he chose those words. What is the politically correct term for a shithole country?

    Further I support a restriction of immigrants from countries that harbor known sources of those that intend to kill us if possible. Be it Yeomen or Japan. I know you didn't include that but it's relevant to our problem. Obana had exactly this policy and in fact did a 6 month hold on those countries. Nobody protested it.

    3. Yes the liberals are as delusional however more in general and not as it applies to Trump so much. Trump is a shithead. Nothing new there. Both parties have their fair share. I think he can do far less damage than Clinton would have. Trump doesn't have much support by the Republican party, Clinton would have had the full collusion of her party behind her. So picking the less of 2 pieces of crap is the problem America faced. I'd prefer it be him than her. But I look at it as the lesser of 2 evils.

    4. I have not looked at any plan he has come up with as far as an immigration plan.

    5. I would support any politician that provided a pathway for removal of any resident U.S. minority group that felt this country was making them miserable. For instance when the blacks are so miserable because they were forced here due to slavery, we should make amends and relocate them to thier Homeland. Note please I did not say all of them. The ones that are certain that they are miserable here can be sent home to thier homeland. There are fine African Americans in this country. So don't attempt to make this a singular assault on a race. That's too convenient a way to not address the problem.

    It has to be cheaper than all the ways we have poured money into that community for the decades we have thus far.

    Try viewing that it might not be about a race it's about problems that may include a specific group of people.

    I know nothing about what a Haitian immigrant may offer us. I do seem to recall that Haiti is I think about the poorest country there is. And if you even care to fact check, the highest rates of AIDS are held by African countries. I'd prefer to not bring that here. I did not create that problem and because they are black doesn't mean it's us being racist. Screen them, restrict free passage, protect us first. Nothing racist about that. No matter how you scream otherwise. If Germany held that title I wouldn't want Germans here.

    I'm sure I'll now be lumped into a Trump supporter. Just because I support a national healthcare plan doesn't mean I support Obama because he managed to come up with one. It is far from the right plan, but it at least started the change to get us there. I hope the same comes from the shithead in office now.
     
  4. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    The professor holds a faculty position and is knowledgeable about mental illness. The professor was never suspended from practice. Trump's bizarre behavior presents a special case in which mental health professionals have a duty to warn.
    .http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...rists-cite-duty-to-warn-about-unfit-president.
    htmlhttps://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/07/28/let-psychiatrists-talk-about-trump-mental-state/hOBqRC8krC3AJBmrcAEEGM/story.html
    Psychiatrists Debate Weighing in on Trump's Mental Health
    Psychiatry’s "Goldwater Rule" has never met a test like Donald Trump
    Donald Trump's malignant narcissism is toxic: Psychologist
     
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  5. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I'm aware of that but I'm also aware his father was arrested at a KKK Rally back in day
     
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  6. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    I didn't say she wasn't knowledgeable, nor did my article. I said her license expired. And you would have known this if you just would've relaxed and read what we both said. AND you wouldn't've jumped the gun.

    Doctors need to get their licenses updated regularly to practice medicine. This woman has not.
     
  7. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Nice "honest" sources you got there. Just fight right with left.

    However, there's a virtual tour of a no-go zone. Courtesy of Tim Pool. He did a whole video series of his tour through the no-go zones and the locals' opinions on the refugee program. Here he interviews a former cop who stepped down.



    If you're attention span is bad like mine, you can fast-forward to 6:00
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    The people he interviews all say they're experiencing a much higher crime rate. There's too much video to sit through

    And the summary of his Sweden report. This is a better video.



    Tim claims the left downplays the migrant problem, but the right may over exaggerate it. He concludes that the media in Sweden is untrustworthy and no-go-zones do exist.
     
  8. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    I've never insulted anyone about their political views, nor am I a Trump supporter.
     
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    If it wasn't about the sale price of the old embassy property, Trumps's next excuse to not visit London to avoid the protests would be that the dignitaries didn't offer him a good enough golf course or chocolate cake.
     
  10. Okiefreak

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    I'm disappointed. I was expecting documentation of rapes. Instead, we get Tim, noted for fleeing Milwaukee because of his fear of Black people. Tim claims neutrality but swings Alt right. He was paid to go there by Paul Joseph Watson, right wing writer for InfoWars. So is his documentary accurate?
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    Debunking the Myth of Muslim-Only Zones in Major European Cities
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  11. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    The concern is one religion objecting to another. If you feel there is no difference between Catholicism and Protestantism, then you are ignoring the long history of strife between the two, such as "The Troubles", the Reformation, and the violence in the U.S. including acts by the KKK. How is that different then some people's attitude toward Islam today?
    The question of whether every single Irish Catholic commented violence can be turned around to read, "Has every single Islamic person committed violence"?

    Are you saying that every Middle Eastern immigrant participates in Taharrush? If so that would be the same as saying that every Italian immigrant belongs to La Cosa Nostra, or every Irish immigrant belongs to the Dead Rabbits, or every Jewish immigrant belongs to The five Points Gang.

    Strict Islamic governments are not tyrannies, they are based on the religious laws of the Qur’an and Sunnah. For better or worse.
    The United States has a wall between the government and religion, although it is frequently blurred by Christianity.

    You claim the left is giving morons a platform when the right elected "The Genius"?
     
  12. soulcompromise

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    I almost let this one go because I don't want to perpetuate the use of this language, but, again, I'll bite.

    It's not the same thing. Redneck is nowhere near as insulting as the "N" word. There has never been a system, or indeed an entire government, God and country behind the enslavement of white people. I don't want to make a comparison using insults, so I won't but I'll just say that the "N" word carries the weight of slavery, jim crow, and years and years of segregation and disenfranchisement with it. The term redneck, while similarly referring to a group of people does not carry anything behind it. There isn't a whole world of black people who have raped and beaten white people religiously.

    I have an excerpt from a textbook about this. It talks about how the one isn't the same as the other. Instead of the "N" word it uses the derogatory terms"Honky" and "Boy" in context.

     
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  13. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    1. It seems you agree with our current process. The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) mandates that all immigrants and refugees undergo a medical screening...
    2. The correct term for a country that has a poor economy, political troubles, inferior healthcare, etc. is not "shit hole". It's a complicated analysis of the conditions that need to be improved.
    Obama didn't pick and choose between those types of countries.
    3. Trump has almost 100% support from the Republican party. That's how he got elected, that's how he stays in power.
    Exactly how are liberals delusional, be specific.
    4. Then you have no opinion as to Trump and immigration.
    5. LOL. So you would have sent Martin Luther King Jr. back to Africa? He was pretty upset about the lives of blacks in this country. Of course instead of running away he choose to stay and fight for justice for all in the Untied States. Very American of him, I think.

    I don't think your idea is only about race as it seems you would have sent the Irish minority that wanted reforms for Irish immigrates back as well...and Ireland is a country.
    Now, let me ask you a simple question. What do you suggest the Native Americans who are upset with their lot in life do?

    Here's one Haitian immigrate:
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  14. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Thank you Neoprene. I must have misunderstood you to say what Michael Savage was saying about Liberals. I am a Liberal Lefty who believes in Human Equality. I will always stand against people like Trump and his supporters who are too-ready to hurt poor people and minorities for profit. I have shared my last food, my last drink, my last cigarette, and my last dollar with homeless friends and I would do it again.
     
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    Looks like Trump might finally be losing his grip with his base. The "shithole" remark was a desperate attempt to get it back. But he faces a dilemma; every time he tries to be bipartisan, his base panics. According to the Gallup Polls, from 1938 to 2018, U.S.Presidents have had an average approval rating of 53 percent; but Trump's dropped to 37 percent this month, down from 39 percent in December. What to do? More "shithole" remarks? That risks turning off the suburban Republican housewives.
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    Trump is the least popular president and it's not even close
     
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    January 12th is the anniversary of the earthquake in Haiti. Trump picked a bad day to make the 'shithole' remark about Haiti and other countries (or perhaps, in his mind, a good day).
     
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    Trump would have trouble finding Haiti on a map. He talked as if Puerto Rico was on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean as an excuse for the lackluster hurricane disaster response of his administration.
     
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    When Trump made the remark about Puerto Rico, he said 'big water'. It sounds like he didn't know the name of the ocean.
     
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    Trump didn't have any trouble giving more U.S. money and troops to Afghanistan which is on the other side the planet. Yet Puerto Rico, a U.S. territory off Florida, is supposedly a problem because it is surrounded by 'big water'.
     
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  20. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    So if you object to others getting higher wages, why do you go along with corporate CEOs and Banksters who rake in millions and billions while they screw your fellow Americans out of a fair wage?
     

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