After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

Of course it’s a stupid argument. Really what it is is an acknowledgement that there’s a problem and scapegoating something other than unfettered access to assault weapons because it’s unpalatable to not be willing to help kids from getting murdered at school. These idiots won’t blame access to guns despite Himalayan sized data supporting a link between access and use because the guns are part of their personal identity and they need them to not feel powerless and weak.

 

I get tired of the mental health argument. If mental health is a problem, then why is it that white, single men are the only ones who suffer from it?
I've yet to see blacks, hispanics, or women commit mass murder.
the problem is that the white man has to prove that he is worthy. He knows that owing to diversity, his days are numbered. Therefore, he has to still remain relevant.
Too many white men suffer from the John Wayne/Clint Eastwood disease.

*sorry for the ramble.

 

Don't apologize for your ramble Why? Because people might disagree or even be offended? At least it seems sincere.

 

One nuance would make your 'ramble' even better: MAINLY white single men.
That idiot who shot up that gay club is one exception. I also saw some statistics that showed 2 mass shootings in the last few decades were initiated by women. But yes, mostly 'snowflakes' (white insecure males).

 

The thing is that statistically white people in the US are more likely to use their guns to kill themselves. This is a mental health problem that is seldom talked about.

A 2016 study published in the American Journal of Public Health found there was a strong relationship between higher levels of gun ownership in a state and higher firearm suicide rates for both men and women. - BBC

Guns and Suicide – The Hidden Toll

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/magazine/magazine_article/guns-suicide/

 

This has been covered either here or in another thread. The pre-dominant majority of mass murderers have been white males. I agree and won't deny that. You won't see me shrug off that fact and try and call it something else. If we have something in our racial make-up that causes it, I will acknowledge this and hope we can eliminate it. I have ZERO problem with purging them from life on earth if they commit murder. Saves us a ton of money housing and trying to make them mentally better over 25 years. It does nothing to bring back the ones they killed. But no not all have been. It was shown that some are women, some Asian and in the last case he was Hispanic So assuming they are all mentally ill, we need to find a way to see them coming before they act.

My personal view is, anyone that chooses to commit a murder, I feel is mentally ill. Otherwise we have created a culture where committing murder is now mentally not ill. No matter the race or circumstance, committing murder should not be considered mentally OK or within norms. When someone shoots someone over a pair of sneakers or etc. if that isn't mental illness then we have a larger problem with our culture of right and wrong.

And I won't disagree with your Demographics. Whites are not re-producing at near the rates as minorities are rising in population counts. We will never reproduce fast enough to overcome the changing demographics. No argument there. And I as a white man will not attempt to preserve anyone within my race that thinks that murder is an OK concept. If we need to purge a portion of our population due to murder or other violent crimes, then I'll have a better remaining white population to draw from.

 

True to form, Trump's solution, aired in his talk with the students at

It's just a diversionary ploy to come up with an alternative to gun control. The right, certainly in my state, have been the leaders in defunding mental health. Once the latest mass shooting crisis is over, they'll drop the mental health talk until the next shooting.

 

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My personal view is, anyone that chooses to commit a murder, I feel is mentally ill. I know I will get flamed for this, but does anyone really need to own a gun? I mean, people do not need to hunt, and if people buy a gun for self protection, they are taking the law into their own hands. When you do that, it leads to anarchy.

 

I disagree: some people do need to hunt.
Also, there's a difference between murder and self protection.

 

Fishing, trapping, and bow-hunting all get the job done without carrying a rifle.

 

Indeed, but getting rid of wild hogs on your lands was already given as an example. In my country its foxes, geese, ducks and deer that at times need to be handled. Best to do it with a hunting rifle. Or let it be done by a hunter that can shoot. I'm not saying semi-automatic guns are needed btw

 

I'm just saying you don't need guns to hunt. Humans have hunted for the majority of our history without them.

 

Apparently there've been some Kill The NRA billboards popping up in parts of the country.

What the far-left is doing here is trying to breed an army of James Hodgekinsons to attack and kill their enemies.

This is one of the main reasons why we have a 2nd amendment.

 

Then they have done us all a favor.

Nah that's is all fantasy. This will never happen in this country . We just have wild imaginations. Says the ones that want to kill the ones they don't agree with.

I saw a clip of a teacher in front of her kids using a toy gun to shoot at Trump and yelling DIE DIE DIE. That seems mentally unstable.

I wonder why we don't see media covering more of these?

 

And then there's this...






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Seems totally acceptable [/sarcasm]

 

Why is it "apparent" to you that "the left" is responsible and that that is their motive? You think we have the Second Amendment to protect us from "the Left"? Where did you hear about the signs? I know there's a picture of one on Fox. When students protest guns they're labelled "crisis actors"egged on by the Demoncrats. How do you know Fox or the Republicans or the NRA didn't put the signs there?

 

who cares if "the left" did put the billboards there

I think its pretty appearant they're referring to killing NRA, the organization . Not killing an actual person.

 

You said it. Most people don't see themselves as having either anything to gain or lose in this debate so they'll never seriously do anything to achieve any type of positive change. Oh, we have our strongly held opinions...over a beer at the local bar let's say, or around the water cooler at work. But we'll never act on it. God I've gotten cynical in my old age. Someone please prove me wrong.

 

I said far left. I think there are reasonable people out there with left leanings.

I’m not too concerned tough. If they do attempt to kill the NRA, they’ll be up agains armed citizens. And those who hate guns are lousy shots.

The second amendment isn’t to protect us from the left necessarily, but it’s to be an equalizer for the weak to have a defensive chance against the mighty.

Actually, on second thought, I think the second amendment is to protect us from government supremacists who’d have disarmed us by now.