After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Feb 15, 2018.

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  1. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    So we are only allowed to have muskets? I am not going to dive into dissecting the 2nd amendment. Dont need to. Heller v DC 2008 supreme court
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Its actually telling something on itself that you don't talk about that. Except of course when you try to put it the school shootings are (ab)used to push a certain political agenda. Which is not why it is brought up by people arguing for improved gun control so much. In fact, most people arguing for that wouldn't do so in the first place if no mass shooting would occur. It's a sickness in your society.
    People shouldn't have to live in fear because of other peoples supposedly need for easy access to guns. Other countries show how much better it can be for everyone in a society.
     
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  3. machinist

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    Its not that I am not talking about that. It is that I gave one answer to one question that Balbus asked.
     
  4. Okiefreak

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    Speaking of Heller, as I recall :"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: ... The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those 'in common use at the time' finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons". Pp. 54–56.
     
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  5. machinist

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    That is correct. The 2nd amendment is not a free for all. For instance fully automatic weapons are currently illegal.
     
  6. Asmodean

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    Cool. Looking forward to your explanation then :)
     
  7. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Also who the heck is Miller?
     
  8. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Can you restate the question succinctly?
    Want good answers? Ask good questions.
     
  9. Asmodean

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    ?
     
  10. Asmodean

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    Just check the thread. The question is below your 'contribution' there and very clear.
     
  11. scratcho

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    Oh yes, we need our AR15s because we might have to fight the US government with their tanks, planes, unlimited ammunition, rockets, drones, well trained military, etc. Yeah---they get smart--we'll take em' down, we will. What's a few kids here and there?
     
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    Some say they need it for wild hogs that come at their farm. If you piss them off they apparently attack you like a pack of wolfs and the only way to save your life is apparently shooting at them with a semi-automatic gun :grinning:
     
  13. scratcho

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    Invest in some grenades.
     
  14. MeAgain

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    Without reading the rest of the posts following this one, while I'm thinking of it...let's remember that 909 people were wounded and 58 of them killed in 10 minutes in Las Vegas just last October.

    And handguns were not used.
    If I did the math right that's about 1.5 injuries or deaths per second. Somebody check me.
     
  15. MeAgain

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    Automatic guns are not illegal, they are highly regulated.
     
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  16. MeAgain

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    Yes. I have already posted several ways to fund a viable buy back program.
     
  17. Okiefreak

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    United States v. Miller, 307 U.S.174 (1939), was a Supreme Court case, cited in Heller, that involved a Second Amendment challenge to the National Firearms Act of 1934 (NFA) provisions concerning certain firearms.
     
  18. MeAgain

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    Let's be clear what we're talking about here.

    Here's a legal gun.

    Now put your first grade teacher with a Glock against that.
     
  19. NotMyRealName

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    Now put 6 against it. Or we can have zero against it, since you're against arming any facility. If we don't get rid of the assault weapons, then you propose we do nothing to lessen the chances of the bad guy.

    Further if it was known that the school is armed, it could well deter someone from acting.
     
  20. Okiefreak

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    On the other hand
    Armed social studies teacher arrested after shooting at Georgia high school
     
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