After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

Here's a reason background checks aren't effective:

ATF appropriations bills state that no funds “shall be available for salaries or administrative expenses in connection with consolidating or centralizing, within the Department of Justice, the records, or any portion thereof, of acquisition and disposition of firearms maintained by Federal firearms licensees,” as it says in the 2012 appropriations bill.

 

Actually the argument is Trump's statement and his idea does not follow the rule of law. He said he want's to take guns from some people without a warrant or official process... Clearly an unconstitutional statement from a POTUS no matter who said it. No?


I guess this decision to remove guns would be at the discretion of the Police? Feds?

 

The harder it is to get one if one really shouldn't and has been checked as such, the less chance that they actually get it and start another mass shooting. So it's clear there is room for improvements. Gun nuts seem to say its not worth it. I think the ones who say that might do so because they're scared they will be put in the checked category. And if they really think no improvements should be made because they might get judged as 'not to be trusted with a (certain kind of) gun'... I rest my case.

 

Aaaand I am officially out of this conversation. Y'all have fun arguing. I wont be logging in or checking for a while. Except maybe to post a picture of my new gun. But I won't read any replies to this or other messages in this thread.

REI just cut indirect ties with firearms manufacturers. Its funny because its not really accomplishing anything except losing them customers. Including myself who was formerly an REI Coop member. Well technically I still am, but I will not spend a single red cent at REI again and I will look into officially canceling my membership.

Bye yall have fun. Ill be out exercising my rights and contributing to good causes.

 

We all know what due process means. We all know that what he is suggesting is controversial. He is not saying they done get due process he is taking away guns til that process occurs. Yeah it night mean they gotta consider some legal changes.

You can quote whatever you want. He is trying to change it for this circumstance. Totally your call if you don't want to support it.

And you might want to fact check. There are many circumstances that if a Temporary Domestic Violence order gets issued against anyone, they must turn in all weapons before the hearing for evidence is ever done.

Easy enough to adapt the same process.

 

Trump said it and he’s a complete jackass for saying it.

If he does take the guns before due process, then he will have done more in the name of gun control than every single democrat over the last 50 years combined.

 

Sorry but I actually think it's a positive thing done in the context of keeping mentally unstable people from using guns.

 

"every single democrat"?

Proof?

 

We should try to keep mentally unstable people out of the White House.

 

It doesn't. But if it came down to those choices which would ypu choose?

 

I've never advocated forcing teachers to be armed. I've advocated that if teachers opt to carry then they should be allowed to.

 

And if they get in, should we be able to take away their nuclear weapons before a due process hearing?

 

Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind...

 

okiefreak,

". . . and are therefore a favorite weapon in mass shooting."

That part. You made that part up.

 

Not really.
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What does that have to do with anything? We are talking about preserving your life and the life in which you are entrusted not seeking vengence.

 

How so?

 

60% of mass shootings are done with pistols. The largest school shooting which killed 32 people was done with pistols and 10 round magazines.