After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

And that doesn't change the fact that handguns are used twice as much as rifles are in mass shootings, and that there has been no public outcry against handguns as there has been against rifles--cosmetically altered or not.

So, what is your argument concerning what to do about that?

 

Why do so many people feel they need semi-automatic weapons for protection? Is the society that dangerous? If it is that dangerous does more guns really make sense?

Just be honest - the guns aren’t for protection. They aren’t for creating an armed militia against a potentially tyrannical government and they aren’t for killing your own food. People who are pro gun are pro gun because they like guns. Period. That groups gun fetish is more important to them than the children being murdered in schools. Just own that

 

Congress is considering a number of measures according to Gun debate: Here are the proposals that Congress is considering . I think the ban on bump stocks is a no brainer. I wish that the ban on assault weapons felt like it had more momentum. Fix NICS is probably going to pass, as will Manchin-Toomey, and the Background Checks. I think the school safety thing is a bad idea but Trump will probably sign it if they pass it to him (I can't think of why he wouldn't). The straw purchases and red flags thing are good ideas. I like what they're saying, but I don't like the probable outcome of the assault weapons ban proposal; though the president said he wanted it if I'm not mistaken.

 

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Americans own an estimated 265m guns, more than one gun for every American adult, according to the most definitive portrait of US gun ownership in two decades. But the new survey estimates that 133m of these guns are concentrated in the hands of just 3% of American adults – a group of super-owners who have amassed an average of 17 guns each.

The unpublished Harvard/Northeastern survey result summary, obtained exclusively by the Guardian and the Trace, estimates that America’s gun stock has increased by 70m guns since 1994. At the same time, the percentage of Americans who own guns decreased slightly from 25% to 22%. - Guardian

I’m sure I’m not the only one to notice that you seem unwilling or unable to address what’s been said.

 

Unwilling how? I have posted quite a lot on this thread. I have no idea what you think I'm unwilling to address. It has gone so far off topic that I'm unsure which of my answers you don't like on what topic. I have stated I'm in favor of controlling access to assault weapons. A ban from all but those holding a proper license.

I won't regurgitate your statistics just because they fit your agenda.

I highly doubt the NRA and this raging National debate is centered around 3% of our population hoarding guns. Further you don't even begin to discuss the fact that there are massive amounts of weapons held illegally and that many many people can also own legally own a gun that isn't tracked at all since we don't have a gun registration law in this country.

Just because we can review sales statistics from gun shops doesn't mean we have an overall picture of who has guns.

 

Just be honest, engaging in mindless stereotyping is expedient to your mindset.

If I want a handgun for home self defense, I want a handgun for home self defense.

 

And what is the difference between a semi-automatic assault weapon and a semi-automatic weapon?

 

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And what does this rant address?

I can ask again - when would you begin murdering police officers not others you.

 

Not to worry. It's just a ploy to change the conversation away from guns.

 

I think this issue is more about the idea of a citizen owning an AR15 for home self defense. The assault weapons ban would address that if it passed. Since no one is trying to take away your handgun, why don't we talk about your ideas for better gun control.

Do you have any ideas that you would like to see implemented in the wake of February's tragedy? They are planning: to Fix NICS, which is the already existing National Instance Background Check System, Manchin-Toomey, which was initially introduced after Sandy Hook and would expand background checks for internet and gunshows, Background checks (redundant, but it's listed again), School Safety, which involves funding for anti school violence and arming certified people in schools, Assault weapons ban, Minimum age for buying an assault weapon from 18 to 21, Bump stocks ban (this is already the case in my state of California, thankfully), Red flags, which allows law enforcement or close family members to temporarily an individual "deemed dangerous" from buying a gun, and Straw purchases, which is where a person who is allowed to buy guns buys one for someone who is not allowed.

That's all on the table in Congress. I don't know when they will have answers for us. I'm hopeful that it will result in a ban on assault weapons.

Storch, what would you add to this list if anything?

 

If they'd have had guns, they'd have been slaughered sooner.

 

Why is your home in such peril you need (not want) a gun?

 

I've had a home invader. This is what I meant about mindless stereotyping. You speak before knowing anything about me. But really, it's none of your business why I need or want a gun.

 

Its your fellow citizens/society's business to have a normal life without daily having to fear for nonsensical gun violence. Like most people can and are living in other societies.

 

Yeah, and it's my business to have a normal life without worrying about what a home invader might do to me and my loved ones.

 

That's why nobody is arguing for the removal of all guns and a proper working gun control in order to make sure you and everyone else should be allowed to have one.
And why we're having this discussion where such questions come up.

 

Let me guess. An AR-15 is your weapon of choice by which to defend yourself and your loved ones, and that any mention of AR-15s in connection with mass shootings makes you fear that someone will take yours and you might have to depend on some other weapon like a handgun which you say is the weapon most often used in mass killings? Do you think we should be concentrating our attention on regulating hand guns? Would that be a practical solution to the killings? Or is this another argument for doing nothing?

 

What happened with the home invader?

 

I would never commit murder upon anyone.

 

Shotgun would do the trick of stopping a burglar or home invader. Hell, maybe even a taser would. Nobody is shooting or hitting you when they're spastic on the floor in a fetal position.
Btw: disclaimer lol: this is not ment to portray civilian ownership of shotguns as irrational. Its just worthy to consider. Another plus of a taser is no chance of brains, blood or pieces of kneecaps around the house