After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Feb 15, 2018.

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  1. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    I'm on a gun forum and a survivalist forum. While it's a good place to glean info from, itit's rather boring otherwise.
     
  2. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    The Saiga 12 is a variant on the AK 47, made in Russia.
    Importation was banned in 2014 by Executive Order 13662.

    There are many types of assault weapons, including some pistols. For example here are just two categories of assault weapons in Connecticut.

    When people here speak of weapons, myself included, they aren't going to site every specific model each time they want to make a point. It'd take us forever. So if I say shotguns are good for home defense but AK 47s should be banned, I assume everyone knows I am referring to a typical hunting shotgun, I'm not going to list every model I consider to be one I would pick.

    If I say there are other valid choices besides an AR 15 for home defense, I assume everyone knows I'm talking about all assault weapons, not just the AR 15.
     
  3. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Elected officials.
     
  4. Idlewild

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    The only people I feel the need to protect myself from is crazy right-wingers. Although if I lived in a high crime rate area, I'd definitely want protection from hooligans.
     
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  5. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Allow guns everywhere.
    Give 700,000 teachers guns.
    Then allow armed parents in the same building.
    Metal detectors need more than one person to man them.
    Background checks are not very effective, the Las Vegas shooter passed at least two.

    The best one is putting armed teachers and armed parents in the same building.
     
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  6. Idlewild

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    You have to say "assault STYLE weapons" or gun nuts will act like you don't know what you're talking about. Or "semi-automatic, high-powered rifles that use detachable magazines to hold the bullets."
     
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  7. Idlewild

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    Who are the victims at these school shootings? Students, teachers, coaches, and administrators. They should all be armed. Perhaps we should pass out guns to them as they enter the schools.

    Sometimes, like in the Texas church shooting, it was a neighbor who shot the shooter. So everyone in the vicinity of the school should be armed with at least AR-15s -- perhaps everyone within a 1/2 mile radius of the school.

    The police and security should all carry M-16s because they need more firepower than everybody else.

    That should pretty much solve the problem. :sunglasses:
     
  8. MeAgain

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    They're reaching for straws. As gun experts they have all the answers.

    See, the problem is assault weapon is a legal term, it's meaning varies from place to place. So to be accurate they want us to list the specific gun, the specific local, the specific date of legislation, who voted for it (probably liberals which automatically nullifies it), and exactly why that particular gun is considered an assault weapon (which is always some ridiculous cosmetic reason).

    Then if you don't take the time, they can say you don't know what you're talking about.

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Exactly. Every concert goer, sports fan, gym nut, park visitor, church member, protester,....in short the entire population needs to be armed at all times in every situation everywhere.
     
  10. Noserider

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    A gun.

    Well, I sure hope they have our best interests at heart.
     
  11. Kerri

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    What kind of gun do you need to stop all of these people who are coming to murder your family?
     
  12. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Well if you live within arm-reaching distance of a dispatch station, you’re very fortunate if you’re ever in trouble.

    The average time it takes for police to arrive for most people is 15 minutes. Where I live, it’s 30+ minutes. Not to worry though, they’ll be there in time to chalk your body’s outline.
     
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  13. Noserider

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    See, this is why this debate never gets anywhere. Pointless hyperbole and putting words into my mouth.

    Now, if you had asked a mature question like, what gun do I feel is adequate my self defense, I would have answered with something like a Ruger LC9 or Glock 26.

    But having one of those in my purse in case I walk down the wrong alley, go to the wrong movie or church service, or dealing with an intruder seems to worry a lot of people. You appear to be one of them.

    Why?
     
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  14. Kerri

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    What kind of gun do you need to stop all of these people who are conj
    Why - because kids are getting murdered at school at a rate that’s unacceptable to me.
     
  15. Noserider

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    Not by women with concealed carry permits who have 9mm in their purses. They're being murdered by psychotics with access to military-grade hardware. That's not acceptable to anyone.
     
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  16. Okiefreak

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    Because you think they're the weapons most used by mass shooters and get really agitated when I bring up Ar-15s..
     
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  17. Kerri

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    1. Let’s onky allow women to carry guns. I can compromise on that

    2. Lots of people are 100% unwilling to discuss any gun control at all - including allowing psychotics access to military grade hardware
     
  18. NotMyRealName

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    What about psychotic women? How on Earth will we know the difference in them by site?
     
  19. Noserider

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    Discrimination based on gender won't fly in the US.

    If that's true, those people are total morons and their opinions shouldn't even be counted in a debate like this.
     
  20. Kerri

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    There’s tons of them. That’s the consensus opinion of the GOP.
     
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