After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

I really like a lot of 90s stuff. I don't have a problem with violent music (on the contrary more like it). But i do have a problem with kids adhering to the street/gang culture too much. It usually leads to other problems than just or mainly gun violence though so maybe for another thread..

 

I think it's cherry picking from a culture and that irks me. I agree there is nothing bad about the competition angle, but in the end, these kids were literally going through the motions. Form a fist, throw a punch while yelling "Ya!" and repeat over and over with no cultural or historical context as to why you're doing it the way you're doing it.

Maybe it's because the term martial arts suggests that there is an artistic beauty to it. But in the US we treat it as a sport. The kids weren't studying karate, they were using it as an activity.

I don't know. Something about the whole thing just left me in the cold.

 

I got that vibe in college. I don't recall why I was in the toy section of a store, but I remember a light going off over my head. All the girls' toys were dolls, and ponies, and soft, pink, frilly things; lots of kitchen play sets, fake vanities and toy makeup.

But the boys' section is all toy guns, NERF guns, toy ninja swords, action figures with weapons, Army men, etc.

That's when I realized just how much gender norms were cultivated in our society.

 

Well I will have to offer some counterpoint to this. I am a well experienced shooter of over 40 years. 25 of which has been legally possessing a concealed weapon permit and carry license. I have had to draw my weapon 3 times in this time to diffuse what could have been bad outcomes for me otherwise. In most situations we will face in confrontations, our foe won't be sitting still waiting for us to draw a good bead on them. In fact they will either be coming towards us or attempting to find cover. The best thing we can hope for is they choose to run away once we draw a weapon. But assuming the first 2 options, now they are at an advantage. We (Me or you) will be ramped up adrenaline, our hands will be shaking, our heart pounding, our vision blurred. So factor in all those conditions and realize that we (Me or You) will probably miss a lot. Either miss completely or not hit where intended. Now lets add low light conditions,a dark alley, parking lot, your home and you're half asleep when the intruder is discovered. Couple that with they are more experienced than we are in this setting. Most bad guys stay alive to be bad guys by getting practiced at it if they don't get killed. Again they aren't going to stand there and give you time to target them.

So as good as I am, I will want to have more than 6 shots available, I will want to have a laser aided sight, to give me the advantage of being able to find my target easier and quicker and hopefully NOT missing at all or near as much.

My personal formula that I chose is a single high capacity quality handgun, with 2 magazines. Each loaded with alternate RIP and wad cutter stacks to allow for more than one shot under more than one condition. If I can't solve my problem in 8 shots, I will be saving/using the rest of my capacity to shoot at them as I am retreating away from the situation. I don't wish to engage in a gun battle with anyone if possible. Its about saving me if I can't take care of them first. I am of the feeling that I can face 90% of my possible likely scenarios with this single handgun. But I am not placing myself in others situations. They may face a different likely environment. I am merely doing what I think is right for mine.

So yeah, my eyes are old, my reflexes slower, my ability to sight in less than a second ain't what it used to be. I consider a laser sight a life saving device in terms of protection. Have had one for 10 years and my ability to sight in and hit exactly where I point is increased by a HUGE amount as a result.

 

The Opiod problem has similar roots in that it gets started by AMA endorsed prescriptions and the profits offered to the physicians that prescribe them for what was initially good cause. Once placed on Opiods for 5-7 days, that persons chemical makeup is altered to require the Opiod and the rest is the train ride to hell.

 

I don't think that high capacity magazines should be used for protection, NotMyRealName. You may want to rethink your approach. It sounds like you intend to do more than simply dissuade a potential attacker. Once shot at anyone will likely retreat. When I had a gun simply pointed at me it was enough to send me behind my car for cover.

 

You might want to go back and take some English comprehension classes. If there is a dead body that is probable cause. I said WITHOUT. The same applies to the rest of your misunderstandings in English translations.

So let's use your response to the KKK scenario I used. If the cops come to my door because they are KKK sympathizers and I am now their target. When they show up to my door, ready to haul me away, who would you propose I call? Give me a moment officers while I look up the number to the FBI? They aren't going to be there to follow procedures, they are there to take me against my will.

 

You weren't a seasoned criminal that does this as part of their life's choices.

With all due respect, I'll stick with what I have been trained to encounter and believe is the reality in my hoped for never scenarios.

I'm glad you had the chance to run. I've had more than a few relatable actually happened events where that was not an option that was offered.

 

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Yeah that's just soft cock arguments really. Kids been playing cowboys and Indians since cowboys and Indians. Just because someone has imagination to fight invisible forces doesn't mean they'll kill people lol. All these do gooders BLAME THE MOVIES BLAME THE MUSIC BLAKE THE VIDEO GAMES smh.

 

(Edit by MeAgain) They have told us here in this thread that hogs aren't a danger and we just say we need guns when we don't.

Aren't you yet convinced that you don't know what you're talking about?
*Turn off sarcasm emoji now*

Some fool here talked about how nobody has been killed by a boar, and how we don't need high capacity magazines to shoot them. Sighting some guy that killed one with a bow and arrow. What they fail to disclose or realize is that they hunt from trucks or stands so they don't get attacked by them. And they act like because you can possibly kill one with a bow and arrow that that is a normal thing. The only limited experience I have with hog hunts, is they travel in packs, run at about 30 mph in all directions and can weigh over 200 lbs quite easily. No way in hell I'm going to arm myself with a 6 shooter and a bow and arrow and think I'm good.

But we are the ones that are the clueless ones.

 

That’s like saying there’s no need to blame the drunkard for causing an accident while driving, because some drunk drivers have made it safely to their destination.

Please stop shilling for big pharma

 

I applaud you for this. I have not read the whole thread or all of your posts, and I am probably not going to. I just happened to see this post.

You are so spot on. I really would like anyone who is going to be a part of the conversation to know what they are talking about. Thats not too much to ask. Go to a gun shop and hold an AR15. At least.

 

I don't see many wild boars in my neighborhood. I'm still good with a nine millie and a .20 gauge shotgun.

Not sure why anyone would want to live in a place where they are at risk of being killed by packs of wild boars to the point they'd rather arm themselves to the teeth instead of move, but, hey, land of the free and all that.

But, because some people want to live off the grid, these types of weapons can be on my street? Hardly seems fair.

 

Even twice and you can't seem to read well.

It's OK I understand your agenda.

 

Yeap. People who have never been hunting are experts on hunting.