After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Feb 15, 2018.

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  1. Noserider

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    That statement actually weakens the AR argument.
     
  2. MeAgain

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    So what you're saying is the hogs are smarter than you are. If you were stripped of your semi automatic weapon and had to hunt hogs to eat, you'd either die of starvation or goring.
     
  3. MeAgain

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    We all know that all drugs have side effects. Are you suggesting that everyone on psychiatric drugs has a bad outcome?

    I don't have any idea how you worked drunk drivers into this.
     
  4. MeAgain

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    And you can't seem to communicate your ideas very well.
    You would shoot trespassers and those trying to take your property (which I assumed was land a perfectly legal thing to do as per the 5th and eminent domain), although you could have been talking about personal property. In which case you would have to prove self defense, not robbery. You can't just shoot someone for taking your cupcake.
    And you failed to mention probable cause and plain sight.
     
  5. MeAgain

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    I'm sorry I thought it was the rule of law that kept us safe.

    What you are saying is that if we give everyone a gun we can do away with all laws.
     
  6. MeAgain

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    Shooting cops and overthrowing the government.
     
  7. MeAgain

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    Wow! Quoting Emerson!
     
  8. MeAgain

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    Just posting portions of a study doesn't prove anything. What is the percentage of abnormal behavior, what is the abnormal behavior, do the benefits outweigh the deficits, etc.
    What were the specific drugs, combinations, dosages, patient background?
    In short, let's consult Quackwatch, just for another opinion.
    Some Notes on ADHD and Peter R. Breggin's Unfair Attack on Ritalin
     
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    The link you posted concerned Ritalin and ADHD. What specific detail in the link I provided did you disagree with? Then we can actually research it to discover the truth of it.
     
  10. Aerianne

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    Says the man with Goethe in his signature line, lol
     
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  11. scratcho

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    Speakin' of hogs---a hog farmer called me out to his hog farm to work on a roof where he had hundreds under a rickety-ass - roof over ALL those critters. I started up on the roof, which was rusty metal and almost fell through on the first step! Those suckers would have eaten me alive!! I didn't work on it. Fuck a'buncha'hogs.
     
  12. Moonglow181

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    Have you seen what people do to the planet lately? Speaking of the cockroaches....People in glass houses should not throw stones.
     
  13. Moonglow181

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    Look in the mirror buddy, or is that budette.
     
  14. storch

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    Meagain,

    Let's start here:

    In May 1990 the U.S. Food and Drug Administration required the manufacturer of Prozac, Eli Lilly and Company, to add “suicidal ideation” and “violent behaviors” to the Post-introduction Reports section of its label. In 2003 the British Committee on the Safety of Medicines and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued warnings about increased rates of self-harm and suicidal behavior in children and youth under the age of 18 exposed to paroxetine (Paxil). Most recently, on August 22, 2003, the manufacturer of venlafaxine (Effexor) issued a similar “Dear Doctor” letter warning about the increased risk of “hostility and suicide-related adverse events, such as suicidal ideation and self-harm” in children age 6 to seventeen.

    In August 11, 1990, an editorial in The Lancet included “the promotion of suicidal thoughts and behaviour” among the adverse effects of fluoxetine. The following year, the British National Formulary, a joint publication of the British Medical Association and the Royal Pharmaceutical Society (1991), listed suicidal ideation and violent behavior as fluoxetine side effects. Subsequently, many books and reports have dealt with the subject of SSRI-induced violence and suicide.
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    Agree, or disagree?
     
  15. soulcompromise

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    I found a copy of the Assault Weapons Ban of 2017. I think this is what they are proposing. It doesn't say "this is an assault weapon, while this is not", but it lists all the proposed bans. I'm impressed with it. Critics say that there are guns which are not listed that do the identical things that some of the guns on the ban list do. But I'm sure that Congress is aware of that. It feels so semantic, but it would be a nice place to start, particularly given the circumstances.

    Here is the bill: https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/pu...D1B1D722D5C4AEDAEBB6276AB36.awb-bill-text.pdf
     
  16. NotMyRealName

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    Except as usual you assume wrong.
     
  17. NotMyRealName

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    There is a real possibility you are on mind altering drugs of some sort.
     
  18. NotMyRealName

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    They reproduce like crazy. It isn't about hunting it's about irradication. It varies from state to state, but where my company is they are about to put bounty's on them to try and get the kill rate to 30% of the population per year just to keep the numbers from growing. Much like the invasive Lionfish, they have to incentivise killing them before they consume everything else and collapse the rest of the ecosystem.

    It isn't about harvesting for food, but I asked the hunters what do they do with them. They are all sold into various consumable markets of some sort. It's more about trying to get rid of as many as possible but I'm glad to see they get utilized instead of just dead carcasses.
     
  19. NotMyRealName

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    I was referring to your post about living near hogs not living around ARs.
     
  20. NotMyRealName

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    You might want to read up on Castle Doctrine there sparky. Both where I work and where I live are CD states.
     
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