After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Feb 15, 2018.

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  1. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Sounded pretty racist to me.
     
  2. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    I don't think of Ben Shapiro as a liar or idiot; I think he's more a clueless right wing extremist ideologue and young fogy, whose mental rigidity precludes meaningful exchange of ideas. I think he actually may believe what he says, so that would make him not a liar. And he is obviously pretty intelligent, in a college debater sense. But he gives the standard extreme conservative shtick with little imagination, intellectual depth, or compassion: the wealthy should get tax breaks because they are the "wealth creators"; colleges are guided by a communist gay agenda and are out to corrupt our youth; transgendered people are mentally ill and delusional; abortion is murder; Obama is a Marxist; yada yada yada. In other words, he's a crank, whose thoughts resemble those of some of the right wing participants in this forum--little more than spin and slogans. On a positive note, as a traditional, "principled" conservative, he at least criticizes Trump, Bannon and Milo, so he's not all bad.
     
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  3. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    White privilege is a myth

    Progressive privilege on the other hand....

    Yeah let’s just say their speaking events never get censored, and their social media accounts never get suspended.
     
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  4. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    You learn about white privilege in sociology. From "Social Problems: Continuity and Change".

    There's so much literature about this being discussed at college campuses everywhere. But that is a discussion for another thread.
     
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  5. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Playing the victim role again? With that mentality, that people like Shapiro encourage, you'll never take responsibility for your life.
     
  6. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    I cant tell if you are saying that these are reasons that white privilege should or should not be taken seriously.

    If should, then I can just laugh.

    If should not, then I agree.
     
  7. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    You must be being sarcastic. You have to be.
     
  8. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Seems certain people are annoyed with the original thread topic and try now to derail this thread with silly clichés about other stuff they assume pro gun control folks (all leftist liberals by their limited understanding :D) can easily be bugged with.
    It's a sign they feel they are losing the discussion ;)

    Just remind them when they ramble about white privilege, or how fun its to annoy feminists etc. to create a seperate thread on it. And ignore them here unless they have something substantial to add again on the actual thread topic :)
     
  9. Noserider

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    If white privilege is a myth, I must just be the luckiest broad in the world.

    Or maybe it's just me privilege. I don't know. But when I get pulled over, I don't ever worry about getting shot; when I walk in a store, no one's eyeballing me; I've never been told I'm articulate for being capable of speaking the very language I've been speaking my entire life; no one assumed my musical tastes based on my level of melatonin; my parents didn't drink from a separate water fountain; when I moved to town, people didn't flee in droves; my race wasn't so under represented in media that people had to create a WET just so I could see people on television who looked like me; I've never seen my people shot in the streets for rioting while people of another country were called Patriots for the same reason; I've never been told to go back the way I came; I've never feared the KKK; no one assumes I'm a criminal just because; I've never been shot for walking around with iced tea and Skittles; no one assumes I'm the help.

    Am I lucky? Or just white?
     
  10. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    This is almost funny

    It’s one ancient propaganda technique after another

    With no real or rational argument try and drown those that do have them in a tidal wave of bull-shit.

    I mean just go through this thread and marvel at the pathetic, disingenuous and derogatory posts shitted out by the gun lobby in the face of the clear, concise and above all rational opposition.

    Then there is the fake outrage – the righteous indignation that someone is going to answer 2 to the question 1+1= when they say it’s 3 – how can they ever talk to you when you are so closed mind to continue to say it is 2 it just makes it clear you will never listen and have made up your mind without even thinking about it being 3.

    It’s the classic case of the abuser blaming the abuse on the abused (here the irrational blaming the people with rational arguments for being attacked for having put forward rational arguments)

    As I say it would be funny if it wasn’t for the fact that these people are trying to stop unnecessary deaths from happening.
     
  11. NotMyRealName

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    Fake intelligence. The lefts are expe
    +1000

    I see where Fla. has placed a bill before the governor on gun control measures. The Democrats, the ones that scream the loudest on gun control, nearly blocked it by voting to oppose it. Gee why am I not shocked. It is and will always be about politics instead of right or wrong.
     
  12. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    NotMyRealName, you act like because the Democrats did that, the whole of this issue about gun control is political and not out of righteous intent. Kind of ridicilous.

    Not if we don't let them. It hasnt descended into that yet. The person who resorted to insults and trolling tactics got properly corrected.
    Your perception that its now suddenly between left and right seems wrong. Yes, one side (if we would divide it like that. I just see a bunch of individuals conversing and mainly one trying to offend for no good reason) seems to consist solely out of right leaning folks, but the other side is a very diverse bunch.

    It's funny that the 2 people who liked your post (as if they're agreeing with your disappointment) are the 2 who involved politics the most in this discussion :p
     
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  13. soulcompromise

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    It's not a laughing matter. And it is part of the curriculum in colleges everywhere. Here's an excerpt from "Social Problems: Continuity and Change"

     
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  14. Asmodean

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    This thread is not about white privilege!

    You're right but going off topic. Don't feed the troll.
     
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    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    You think its true because its taught in schools. Thats funny and scary.
     
  16. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Hey I put forth my best gun control effort in this threadnlast week. Only two people had anything to say about it and they both somehow mangled it up so bad that the difference between their interpretation of it and what I actually wrote was night and day
     
  17. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    No one says that they do need that many rounds for hunting unless you're hunting hogs. When people hunt with ARs, usually they only use 5-10 round magazines as per hunting regulations.
     
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    It's not really needed for hunting hogs either, unless one is imagining to be at war with them and they outsmart you in the field.
     
  19. Meliai

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    Democrats voted no because of the provision to arm teachers.

    Like it or not, the issue of gun control IS political and requires the political process to institute change (although the free market is making some inroads too)

    Republicans knew going into it that any bill that allows teachers to be armed isnt going to get bipartisan support
     
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  20. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Who cares if its needed or not. Nobody needs a mercedes versus a toyota.

    Anyway 6.5 creedmore is an AR chambering that is gaining a lot of popularity for hunring. And the standard .223 or 5.56 has long been a popular hunting load.
     
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