After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

To be fair this thread is about Mass Shootings. It has been defined. Lets stick with that aspect.

 

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The hog hunting topic merely got attention in here because some people argued that's why there should be AR15s available.

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It was mentioned as a reason, not the reason. While hunting is a reason, the broader reason it should be available is that it's no more or less dangerous than any other firearm available to the public. It's how dangerous the mind of the hands it or any other firearm is in that needs to be addressed. It's not the arrow, it's the Indian. It's not the car or truck, it's the driver. It's not the knife, it's the butcher, and on and on and on.
But somehow when it comes to AR-15's, it's most definitely the firearm.

 

Yeap, lets let a few bad apples ruin it for everybody. NOT

 

I picked up a copy of "the nation" progressive news magazine today.

Could not stop laughing.

 

Well to be fair, the AR style rifles were based on combat weaponry. High capacity, high volume killing. And yes while it can be used for many other less sinister choices, it does beg the question, if we didn't have access to it, could we accomplish our "other chosen applications" without it? And it does seem to be the weapon of choice for the whack jobs. I'd propose that we ban or control its access to it for say 3 years, and see what happens to the school shootings or other incidents for that matter.

This does not however address the problem of the untold numbers already owned and sold outside of the new gun sales.

I agree the bad people are gonna find another weapon, but maybe there is something about the AR-15 that makes them go Rambo on these schools.

 

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds

 

I think the AR15 movement is pretty much unstoppable.

Progreasive news outlets like to paint this picture as if they are winning the battle and that the firearms industry is in its death throes. Its not. Its evolving. Its evolving in this beautiful free capitalist country. Yes, capitalism is a good thing.

Remington is going bankrupt, all these fund managers are pulling investments out that have any linkages to firearms or ammo manufacturers. Companies are doing these ridiculous "boycotts" if you can even call them that of the NRA that arent accomplishing anything except losing them customers. Trying to close off the spigot that keeps the money flowing.

What they dont realize is its fragmenting and spreading and getting a stronger foothold. There are tons of little machine shops popping up all over the place that are manufacturing everything from ARs to top of the mark bolt action hunting rifles and selling them on the internet shipping to licensed federal firearms licensed mom and pop shops

 

Dude we don't know if these kids have some abhorrent fascination with this weapon or not. If they can't get the ARs, will the shootings stop? I'd say not, but I'm willing to say I could be wrong. I'm not a professional psychiatrist trying to figure out what the hell makes these kids go off the edge. We can accomplish everything the AR can with other weapon choices. I said for a timeframe, to see if it fleshes out a result we can quantify. I have always been in agreement that we have access to guns for years and that we didn't see these shootings until recently. Something has changed. Maybe the mental health issue relates to the actual AR. Some morbid mental addiction to it.

 

The 4 largest firearms makers combined account for only 5% of the market. Wow. Thats a lot of healthy competition.

 

I remember kids who played with matches when I was growing up. Most of them managed to burn themselves more than anything else. But a few caused real damage, usually to backyard sheds, wooded lots or the occasional dumpster. Mind you this was well before the age of disposable butane lighters. All that carnage and yet, nobody who made matches was demonized.

Me, well, I never got caught and I was just using matches to make bombs and tin foil rockets. I never burned down any property. And look how well I turned out!

 

Butane lighters are basically military style fully semi automatic assault matches.

They even make them in hello kitty versions just to give you an idea what some of the owners are like inside their sick heads.

 

I painted the stock on a new Daisy pink (actually Krylon watermelon) for our daughter when she was 8. She could barely cock the thing, but was a deadeye shot with it. With a bow, she's lethal. And it doesn't even have to be an "assault bow"!

I have mused with the idea of painting the front of the barrels of our home protection equipment bright orange. To lure the assholes in closer before dispatching. But that's just the psychopath in me talking.

 

I interpret that hello kitty custom as defiant and mockery. An in-your-face maneuver by the owner if you will, not as innocent as some are suggesting it is.

 

"Innocent"? I didn't get that idea at all. It was an obvious, overt stick in the eye to machine-hating morons.

 

I bought a weed pipe a while back--it had a nice design on the front. When I lit up in front of one of my sons---he said "that's cute. Where did you get that hello Kitty pipe? Should keep my glasses with me I guess, although I don't much care about what others say. Most of the time.

 

George, I don't consider myself a machine-hating moron as you eloquently put it. I do however think it's overt. Very much so.

 

Did you guys hear about the CDC study that Obama mandated on guns... he didnt like what they found. It was good news for guns.

 

Can you provide us a link to that?

 

https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/1#viii