After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

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  1. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Yeap just like a machine gun. Thats my point. Thanks
     
  2. storch

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    Okay, we'll look at all of the mass shootings since 2004, after the federal ban expired.

    Since 2004:

    Orlando nightclub: 50 killed. Both rifle and pistol used.

    Sandy Hook: 28 killed. Both rifle and pistol used.

    Sutherland Springs Church: 27 killed. Rifle used.

    San Bernardino: 14 killed. Both rifle and pistol used.

    Orange County, Florida: 5 killed. Pistol used.

    Fort Lauderdale airport: 5 killed. Pistol used.

    Roseburg, Oregon: 9 killed. Pistol used.

    Chattanooga, Tennessee: 5 killed. Both rifle and pistol used.

    Charleston, South Carolina: 9 killed. Pistol used.

    Isla Vista, California: 6 killed. Pistol and knife used.

    Washington, D.C.: 12 killed. Pistol and shotgun used.

    Santa Monica, California: 5 killed. Rifle and pistol used.

    Minneapolis, Minnesota: 6 killed. Pistol used.

    Aurora, Colorado: 12 killed. Pistol and rifle used.

    Oakland, California: 7 killed. Pistol used.

    Seal Beach, California: 8 killed. Pistol used.

    Tuscon, Arizona: 6 killed. Pistol used.

    Manchester, Connecticut: 8 killed. Pistol used.

    Minnesota: 9 killed. Pistol used.

    Goleta, California: 6 killed. Pistol used.

    Meridian, Mississippi: 6 killed. Shotgun and rifle used.

    Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania: 5 killed. Shotgun, bolt action rifle, and pistol used.

    Salt Lake City, Utah: 5 killed. Pistol and shotgun used.

    Blacksburg, Virginia: 32 killed. Pistol used.

    Omaha, Nebraska: 8 killed. Rifle used.

    Dekalb, Illinois: 5 killed. shotgun and pistol used.

    Binghampton, New York: 13 killed. Pistol used.

    Fort Hood, Texas: 13 killed. Pistol used.

    http://timelines.latimes.com/deadliest-shooting-rampages/

    Handguns have been involved in way more mass shootings than rifles. It would appear that pistols are the preferred weapon of mass shooters.
     
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    All this time I couldnt tell if you people were joking or not.

    Now I am beginning to wonder if YOU even know if youre joking or not.
     
  4. machinist

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    Its like i literally have to cover all my bases if i dont want someone to come back with a ridiculous response. Its not enough to just expect people to be able to understand the most simple things.

    Its no wonder liberals want their ass wiped for them.
     
  5. MeAgain

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    So what? Let me ask you did a pistol kill 58 people and wound 851 others in 10 minutes?
    You seem to think that just because a pistol was present, or used, or a shotgun, whatever...that AR 15s and other assault weapons arn't more dangerous.
    As I've said before let me see you face down as AR 15 with a pistol...and remember the range of an AR 15 600 yards, Glock 55 yards.
     
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    There must be at least 4 million AR-15s in the U.S. So why don't you compare that number with the number of mass shootings done with AR-15s. Your accusation against people who own an AR-15 is silly. Do you really believe that people who own an AR-15 don't care about children being shot. If there were no AR-15s, you'd be accusing people who own semi-automatic pistols of not caring about children because someone killed some kids with one.
     
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    Well, a guy in Blacksburg Virginia killed 32 people with a pistol. You can go on about the range of an AR-15, but the fact is that virtually all mass shootings are done at close range.
     
  8. machinist

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    Also you should disclose that upfront.

    You cant just go around saying "dont worry I dont want to take your guns away" when you actually want to make them damn near impossible to get.

    This is why gun grabbers cant be trusted!
     
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    So what's ridiculous? That you can't respond to my posts without making remarks about my intelligence?

    You're trying to equate drunk driving accidents with shooting people.
    Drunk driving accidents are, well, accidents. Shooting people may be accidental but in many cases is not. I haven't heard of any accidental drunk driving episodes that resulted in 58 dead and 851 injured.

    We have taken many steps to lessen drunk driving and the result of drunk driving accidents including laws, detection devices, removal of licenses, and lock out devices; not to mention all the safety devices now built into cars by law, all the way from safety glass to automatic braking systems.

    Finally you have to inject a slur on all liberals.
    Maybe you can get away with that stuff somewhere else , but when I see it I call it out.
     
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    So what? We shouldn't do all we can to lessen the effects of mass shootings? Why not make machine guns and hand grenades readily available?
     
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    What about the fact you make youtself sound so innocent by saying dont worry we wont take your guns" when you actually want to make guns damn near impossible to get.
     
  12. machinist

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    Lets make knives illegal. They kill 4x more people than rifles in america per year. Source: FBI
     
  13. MeAgain

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    To clear it up for you, I want to make certain guns very hard to get, not all of them. I have no problem with you being able to readily purchase a .22 LR bolt action rimfire rifle or a .44 Henry rimfire.

    So I have no idea what you're talking about.
     
  14. MeAgain

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    Scrapping the bottom of the barrel there.
     
  15. machinist

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    Been arpund where? Ive been on hipforums for like 10 years or something
     
  16. machinist

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    Thats your logic
     
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    Do you have a problem with readily purchased 30-06 centerfire, 300 Winchester magnum centerfire or 9mm semi auto hand gun?
     
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    I believe a 30 06 and 300 Winchester magnum center fire are cartridges, not guns. So it would depend on the rifle they are used in.
    I have no current problems with 9 mm handguns unless they appear on a assault weapons list such as a TEC-9.
     
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    But a 300 Win Mag can pierce a military helmet at over 1000 yards. And it can go through a guy, go through a wall behind him, and kill a guy on the other side.
     
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