After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

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  1. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    Because it can't be removed anymore than they can keep heroin out of our prisons. It only creates a false sense of security as the gun Genie is already out of the bottle. I expect the "oh but Europe" this and the "oh but Canada" that, but there's no fair comparison to be made since they have only a fraction of the US population. It's a pipe dream to think we can remove these machines from our world. Better to work on the problems we can reach like dismantling gangs, containing maniacs and enforcing the laws that are already in place.
     
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  2. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    It is indeed mandatory for all males to register for a draft by 18.
     
  3. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Yeah I say we go around making policy based on one time occurences.


    Hey what about the fact that a 300 Win Mag can pierce a military helmet at over 1000 yards (further than AR15) and can go through a guy, through a wall, and kill a guy on the other side
     
  4. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    He brings vehicles into the argument perhaps because

    Canada has laws that ban guns based on cosmetic features and the US 1994 to 2004 assault weapons ban did too
     
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  5. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Wow, its like you actually make sense and arent crazy.
     
  6. Okiefreak

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    And now we have the veterans' hospital shooting (not stabbing) in Napa County. Never ends!
     
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  7. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    It's unfortunate these shootings take place at schools and locations like a veteran hospital, dance club or concert. Maybe if these culprits really want to trigger a societal change in some way (not sure how often that plays a role when committing such an atrocity) they could do it at NRA buildings.
     
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  8. Asmodean

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    Little nuance: To people like you ;)
     
  9. NotMyRealName

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    It was an Asian American dude. In one of the most gun restricted states in America. I doubt we will hear that much about this one. Maybe some over the weekend in a slow news cycle.

    And another one in Pomona,Ca. 2 officers shot. Tuned in to CNN and saw Stormy Daniels for an hour.

    It doesn't fit the liberal dialog very well.
     
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  10. NotMyRealName

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    They could try. But they would likely be taken down in a hail of bullets if they did.
     
  11. tikoo

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    Some credit card companies and payment companies are refusing to process payments for merchants
    who specifically sell only guns/supplies .

    The payment company , SQUARE , has issued this statement :" We do not believe the sale of firearms
    on our platform is consistent with our values or in the best interest of our customers ."


    Similar private policies have previously applied to internet sales of pornographic materials .

    So , morally how do guns = porn ?
     
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    Its a private company. They should be able to business with whom they like. I have no problem with it. People can pick who they want to do business with.
     
  13. scratcho

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    It's a shame there are guns at all. However, even as humans have always used varying substances to change consciousness in their surroundings/lives-----people have always been aggressive and murderous toward those considered others. Both circumstances are unlikely to change in any material way. I think that it would take a complete reset of the priorities of purpose, relative as to why we humans are even here, the importance of such and the importance ( if any) of the individual. The reordering would have to start with the very little ones as they come into being, but as it stands, the BIG ONES would/ will have none of that kind of talk. Soooo---here we are.
     
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    Private businesses serving the general public do get sued for discrimination .
     
  15. GeorgeJetStoned

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    Right, it would be like trying to rob a gun shop. No, these mass shooter pussies don't go after challenges, they look for easy marks and maximum horror. Which is why no amount of whining about it will a thing. It's time for an apolitical solution that doesn't involve partisan grandstanding.
     
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    Just for the record, do you support a ban on all guns, or are you focused on semi-automatic rifles?
     
  17. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So your argument is, if we can't remove every single gun in the U.S., then every single type of gun ever made should be available to every single person in the U.S. and we should do nothing more in regards to guns. Limitless access, limitless range, velocity, rounds per minute, magazine size, etc. But you can't join gangs, maniacs need to be locked up, and any gun laws that are already in place should be enforced even thought that may go against the first part of your argument?
    Do I have that right?
     
  18. MeAgain

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    Unfortunately guns have been used in many mass killings. Limiting the types of weapons available to the public is one step we can take to help reduce that. Like we did with machine guns.

    As I said before a 300 Winchester Magnum is a cartridge, not a rifle. The AR 15 style is a rifle that can use multiple sizes of cartridges depending on setup.
    Any rifle that uses a 300 Winchester Magnum and meets the criteria needed to label it an assault weapon should also be banned.
    I believe the NEMO Arms Omen rifle would fall in that category under the old Federal Assault Weapons Ban.
     
  19. MeAgain

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    I don't know why I have to keep repeating this year in and year out. I do own guns. I support a ban on certain types of guns, large capacity magazines, devices used to alter weapons to circumvent laws, civilian body armor, excessive rates of fire, etc.

    No, I wouldn't limit bans to only rifles. I would also include certain types of shotguns, pistols, and whatever else is deemed too dangerous for public sale and ownership such as explosive devices or rocket guns such as the Gyrojet, if they're ever perfected and found to be unacceptably dangerous.
     
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    Forgive me for not keeping up with your posts year in and year out. I've never really paid attention to the gun issue until as of late. Now what certain types of guns do you support a ban on?
     
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