After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

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  1. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    MeAgain what leftist source are you getting your propaganda talking points from? I can tell they dont know anything about guns either.
     
  2. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    But what about those kids held as sex slaves in the dungeons of the Comet Ping Pong pizza place? But wait, that was fake news circulated by Russian trolls and bots! Who was married to Betty Grable? What do you think of Putin?
     
  3. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    You guys

    March is official ladder safety month

    No joke

    The CDC reports tbat 300 people a year die falling off ladders.

    What is mass shootings? Like 50 ish?

    I think its clear.

    Lets ban ladders.

    Or at least make them as hard to get as machine guns. Cmon gjys Im not a complete whackjob I dont want to take your ladders away completely.
     
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  4. storch

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    I propose four-foot ladders. But then there's nothing stopping the ladder-nuts from getting two, or even three, ladders and welding them together to make their ladders illegal. So I also propose that we regulate welding rods in a way that will force people to account for exactly where they used them, and then send proof of the work via phone camera. That would be a good start.
     
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  5. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Nobody needs welding rods.

    Welding was invented way after the forefathers drafted the bill of rights.

    Anybody that needs welding rods to join two pieces of metal together is a giant pussy. Just rivet them together like they did in the old days.

    Some people even buy pink welding helmets. Obviously sick fucks.
     
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  6. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    I dont care. You are not as compassionate as I am and you dont have any empirical data. Dont you care about painters and handy men! Its 2018 get with the program! We live in a modern civilized society!
     
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  7. machinist

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    Compassionphobe
     
  8. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So who's advocating taking away all guns?

    I agree most gun owners are responsible, but that dosen't mean we need "mass killing machines", as you call them, to be available.
     
  9. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Thanks for considering my well being.

    But, I'm not evading your question.
    The AR 15 combines the destructive ability of a 3 shot magazine bolt action rifle with "assault" features such as the ability to accept large magazines, bump stocks, pistol grips, etc. It's pretty hard to turn a bolt action rifle into a 600 round per minute weapon.

    Ballistic performance is not irrelevant.
    I have no problem with the sale of a semi automatic BB gun equipped with a 100 round magazine and a 400 foot per second muzzle velocity, as it doesn't pack much of a lethal punch.
     
  10. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Ever hear of the North Hollywood Shootout?
     
  11. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    We are also talking about the weapon used in the Parkland shooting.

    I'm sorry I missed your rebuttal of my argument. Are you saying that because pistols are used in more mass shootings, we shouldn't outlaw a gun that has been used in the deadliest mass shootings? And are you implying that there aren't pistols that need to be placed on an assault weapon ban?
    Same with the shotgun.
    Strange that you should bring up a mass shooting that occurred at a "hard" target.
    The shooter used a Remington 870 Express Tactical 12-gauge shotgun it had a sawed off barrel and no stock. Weapons of this type should be outlawed.
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    My point about muzzle velocity concerns the lethality of different weapons.

    No one is proposing banning guns because of their looks.
    I don't believe the Sig Sauer MCX .177 CAL 30 Round Air Rifle appears on any ban list.
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  12. Asmodean

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    Like gun grabbing, or the opposite of course: to trigger another sales spike.
    Not crazy to consider these options at all, but it seems in almost all cases crazy to conclude after looking at the details. It's unlikely this kid that did the 8th school shooting this year was bought by either side at the cost of his whole future. It was most likely just a confused/disturbed individual not catering to any bigger agenda. In some instances they are it seems, like that turd who supposedly wanted to trigger a race war by shooting at a church. So its always worthy to consider the option, i agree. Just silly to conclude with it in a lot of cases as details show.


    For someone who dislikes being misinterpreted (esp. on purpose :p) you're being rather hypocritical here (you're also wrong about labeling me as a gun grabber, I will never take your guns or have any say in the decision of your fellow countrymen. But as you are the champion of flawed generalisations and stereotypes in this thread its clear how you reach your conclusion). Also quick with the shaming tactic i see. Typical ;)


    But i doubt you disagree after you thought about it: I'm not advocating MORE shootings, I said it would be better if they didn't take place at such locations as schools etc. but instead at these NRA buildings. Yes, these locations are full of people who deluded themselves as being protectors of the innocent and the USA in general, and are packing heat. Yes, the culprit would most likely be stopped sooner than at a school. How am I wrong in preferring those locations as the favored scene for mass shooters instead of schools, a veteran hospital, gay club, concert or cinema??
     
  13. GeorgeJetStoned

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    In the spirit of the second amendment we do, so we can execute a tyrannical government should it arise. The second amendment isn't about "hunting" after all. It's about killing.
     
  14. MeAgain

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    We're talking about muzzle velocity and what guns look like. If you choose to categorize weapons by their means of firing a projectile, that's fine.
    I could have used a .22 short as an example just as well.

    BTW under Federal law an air powered BB gun made from the frame or receiver of a firearm is considered a firearm.
     
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  15. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So you're an advocate of mass shootings by the use of "mass killing machines" as you call them. You especially advocate the killing of government officials.

    George, do you realize what you're saying?
    I would assume statements such as that should be investigated by the FBI and immediately preclude you from owning guns period.
     
  16. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Here we go again. 4th time

    1.Muzzle velocity does not necessarily equal lethality because refetence #2

    2.There are plenty big game rounds that outperform AR in terms of ballistic performance

    3. That you bring pellet guns into the argument shows how wacky youre logic is and youre missing the point. Because reference the second point.

    I can explain it to you, but I cant understand it for you.
     
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  17. GeorgeJetStoned

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    So much drama. Why don't you simply ignore me if it's so upsetting? And the FBI? Seriously, you're going to go there. Take me off your list, I have no time for narkism.
     
  18. machinist

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    Bless her heart
     
  19. storch

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    Oh way to go! You went and said it out loud. Now rivets and rivet guns are going to regulated F**k! Ain't no way I'm gonna pass a background check; not after I negligently tossed a couple of rivets over into my neighbor's yard, which cost his wife her left eye when one flew out from the grass-chute of his push mower. I got sued for her medical expenses and a new mower blade. So yeah, that's on my record.

    Ya know, that's got me thinking that you should always carry a fistful of rivets in your pocket. Then, if you 're ever outside mowing your lawn, and you're approached by some shady-looking characters, you can point the grass-chute of your mower in their direction, and when they're within range, toss the rivets just in front of your mower and then roll it over them. It's bound to put out an eye or two.
     
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  20. Meliai

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    Sure but pretending you have a chance in hell of overthrowing the most powerfully armed government on earth isnt dramatic at all
     
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