After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

I'm sorry (for you, to be clear) that you give up so easily. But as been stated, you didn't have to reply there at all. It's clear you agree.

 

I dont need to give up. Im on the winning side. A month later and no meaningful legislation passed. Gun sales have soared and NRA memberships have soared.

 

So we have seen improvement despite what Machinist is indicating. Florida, a swing state has passed legislation banning bump stocks and raising the minimum age from 18 to 21. The bill, now law also includes a provision for teachers to arm themselves but that remains voluntary. The NRA has filed a lawsuit claiming the law is not constitutional and violates the second amendment. Florida Gov. Rick Scott signs gun bill - CNN

 

Florida passed gun control legislation. It wont happen at a federal level with a Republican controlled congress and a "Republican" president , I dont think anyone is foolish enough to think any meaningful gun control legislation will happen right now.

And of course gun control sales are soaring, they always soar after a mass shooting. Its gross.

 

Oh do you mean the one that let teachers to have guns in schools and the NRA is suing the state for raising the age limit.

I knew I should have covered my bases. Yall are gonna bring some non issue up.

Well i kinda did. I said meaningful

 

Another tragic shooting unfolds, this time Albert Wong, an ex-military former patient is at the root of it.

Judiciary is no joke. They will lose and appeal until it goes to the Supreme court.

Does anyone know if it will be law until otherwise proven? I understood that it goes into affect reasonably soon.

 

NRA won't win. Handguns already have an age requirement of 21 so there is legal precedent

 

Dont matter. At least they are suing them.

And there will be more guns in schools keeping kids safe

 

That part is voluntary, and remains to be seen. I think it's a mistake. Teachers are supposed to be role models. Gun toting rebels are not good role models.

 

I guess people who see it like that don't realize the Republican party won't stay in this position forever. And may even at some point purge their ranks in an attempt against corruption and bought politicians. Ok, the latter probably takes longer but still.

 

The justices trump appointed are there until they die, or I think they can resign. Anyway.. they will be conservative long after Trump leaves.

 

Progressive change don't always comes fast. Certainly not if a certain amount of the american citizens is not acting on their own ideals and preferences. That another part is battling against it should not be an issue: democracy and all. It's good they stand up for their own (even when they're selfish and antisocial) principles and preferences. If they are with a majority that would be unfortunate for the ones wanting progressive change of course. But are they really the majority? And if so, will it stay that way on the long term? This is why these kids protesting are so important. And why people should always battle that NRA (and certain political even) propaganda that plays into people's fear. And confront the arguments made by gun nuts in debates like this.

 

Kids protest abuse . Your progressively political/sexual abuse inclusive .

 

Depends upon if that authority figure represents values they see as good or not.

I watched Obama shred the Constitution a few times while he was in office. It didn't seem to bother his followers.

I do agree that the Constitution was written in times that don't exist now. With a simple selection of wording choices, much of our problems today could be avoided. By using a simple term as everyone, could have solved so much by saying every American. Would solve a lot of our immigrant problems we face today. Had they known we'd we where we are today, I'm sure they would have worked on thier word choices and punctuations. Back then the death penalty meant a public hanging in short order. Now Death Penalty means 25 years in prison, while being provided, food, exercise, entertainment and healthcare. And Lord knows we have to be careful in how we kill them cuz we might hurt them in the process.

I'm sure the writers if the Constitution never meant that either.

 

Abolish punishment .

 

What makes them rebels? I grew up knowing that many role models protected me with guns.

 

Gun-control is tinkering . It is all logical humanism can do .
Logical does not equal rational .

 

Fair enough. But I would defiantly protest if one of my own teachers was toting their piece at my high school. I think there's a cultural message in there somewhere, but I don't want to pick it apart.

You're right, in that I think that police officers are often good role models; though we must excuse them in recent memory and other certain cases. Responsibility is really important for kids that age in my opinion.

I honestly would find it very offensive if my teachers in high school were armed.

 

And I find it offensive that the cops can't protect us and we can't keep crime away from us on our terms. Crime in America has increased substantially and I'm tired of it being rationalized as well.

 

Crime has increased? Are you sure? 5 facts about crime in the U.S.

 

Number three on the Pew Research is my explanation of that particular statement. Public perception of crime doesn't always line up with reality.