After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

Of course, here you have a problem of correlation not being the same as causation. Just because the perps were taking psychotropic drugs doesn't mean the drugs caused their violence. They were probably taking the drugs because they had emotional problems which somebody thought would be helped by the drugs. I think I mentioned my friend before who is diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and Asperger's. He's off his meds because he can't afford them, and his insurance won't cover them. I think I'd be more comfortable with him on the meds than off them. So would his parents. But certainly something to consider. These people were presumably put on the drugs by their physicians or by mental health professionals, the same ones relied upon to do something about mental illness, if we can afford it.

 

I know pathetic when I see it.

You've been a tremendous help in understanding the contributing factors of how a nation becomes a shit hole country.

 

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What, oh you mean your own argument, yes I know it doesn’t seem to be standing up very well does it.

LOL – have you actually got any further argument or are you just going to blow hot air?

 

Nice article. Right in America 1 million kids under the age of six are on psychiatric drugs including some under the age of 1. I'm not really sure why kids under 1 need to be on anti anxiety medication. Prozac is 10 times more likely to cause violence compared with other drugs. When 37 million Americans are on prescribed drugs many of which have violence as a side effect I don't think it's surprising that there will be some blow back.

 

Esp if they as a teen can also purchase an AR15. Obviously a disastrous combi

 

Soul you may decide that this is science that backs up the idea of genetics attributes that contribute to human behaviors.

There is a Warrior Gene that has some science behind it.

Do the MAOA and CDH13 'human warrior genes' make violent criminals—and what should society do? | Genetic Literacy Project
The Warrior Gene
“Warrior Gene” Predicts Aggressive Behavior After Provocation
The Extreme Warrior gene: a reality check

 

I do have to admit although guns have always been in America the public shooting is a more recent occurrence. And most of these shooters are one some kind of medication. There is a reason that the side effects of pharmaceuticals are always spoken quickly and a little softer than the rest of ad at the end of a commercial. But to address this you get into taxes paying for someone who is not you. Someone who very well may never work in their life. Which most gun owners being Repunloican will not tolerate.

Genetically you as a white male are 99.9% percent similar to an Arab or Black man. There is really nothing special about you. Things like skin color developed based on the environment of the region. If France was as hot as Africa French people would be black.

Cultures are different because for most of human history people did not go far from where they were born. Now you can fly across the Atlantic in a few hours Columbus took months. Thousands of generations doing this means we see differences in physical appearance and customs. But the world is different now we are all connected and cultures share. Japan has KFC, black women dye their hair blonde, white kids listen to rap. It's a loosing battle to have this Alt-right view that people should separate and that;s good and natural.

If there was a true difference in humans we could not reproduce with each other. You see it in nature. Just because two animals are birds they can not necessarily have fertile eggs for example. And there genes are still extremely similar.

 

Yeah, I realize there are other factors. There's a weak system of checks and balances, the mental health resources aren't nearly as good compared to other countries, school environments could be improved. Also, I think social stratification plays a role.

 

lol

The Warrior Gene
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I find irony! lmao.. the gene that may make men more aggressive, may make women happier.

It seems like there is validity to the explanation, especially in the second link. It didn't mention race, but I only read the first two articles. Thank you!

 

Yeah, if anyone fits that description, it's them. And by calling them human trash I mean to say that they represent something that greatly contributes to the ugliness of the human environment.

 

Yep. Not a very difficult concept to grasp. And as long as they need to debate the umpteen different scholarly use of data to figure it out if they are or not, I'm gonna need a gun to keep the trash away until such time as they can agree on it. Which will likely be never.

Meanwhile while its debated, the trash is making more trash at a rate faster than we can rid ourselves from it.

 

Yeah, I'm keeping my gun. And I don't have to justify it to anyone.

 

As I stated I am not a geneticist. However when I went to med school we had to have blocks that covered genetics aspects of humans and diseases. There is SOLID evidence that supports that there is a gene that triggers alcoholism and addictions in general. It can lie dormant until chemically activated. By the first introduction of say alcohol or cocaine etc. Once it hits, that gene activates and the host are pretty much on the path of fighting what its body is trying to force them to do. That is one example. Cancers are nothing more than genetics mutations that go awry. If we can cut out the defective gene string and splice in a correct one, cancer etc. is eradicated. Yes we are close to making that a reality. I think in the next few years we will have cancer curable with gene splicing therapy. I saw much evidence in these blocks that pretty much convinced me that genetics and the sub level of epigenetics plays major roles in human behaviors and outcomes.

I tend to trust science more than politics.

 

The past 24 hours of this thread pretty much has all the justification you need.

 

Personal reasons for owning an item are not the same as legal obligations. No one is going to ask you to write an essay about why you like guns. But it's very possible in the future there will be steps to take to own a gun in first place.

 

Asking me to write an essay on why I "like" guns would make about as much sense as asking you why you dislike them.

And since you brought it up, what are my legal obligations concerning gun ownership?

 

Right now it would be something like following background checks and not owning guns as a felon, keeping them away from children, not carrying while drunk. All of these three things could be a criminal charge correct?

In the future It's more like insurance premiums with possible criminal charges for something like say a gun you own is used in a mass shooting. This already happens in Germany to legal gun owners because they failed to secure the gun clearly so a dangerous person got it.

Also an actual license to own a gun, and consistent mental health checks and testing at the gun owners expense to maintain the license such as a car. Since you can easily kill someone with a Dodge or pistol each require the person show they have the mental capacity and understanding to operate them safely. That probably gets your blood boiling. But I believe it has a realistic chance of being future law while maintaining the second amendment. Gun owners won't like it but the like guns more and will find they are not really motivated or equipped to fight Uncle Sam.

 

You're mistaken about what gets my blood boiling. If someone wants to interview me to find out if I'm a danger to society, they can do that. If I leave my gun lying around and someone gets ahold of it and kills someone, I understand that I'm liable. However, if you believe that I'm incapable of hiding a motivation to kill someone, that would be gullible of you.

 

Well then you are rare gun onwer but one that we need more of.

 

I'm not so sure that you're qualified to make such a statement.