The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    He's not mentally competent. It's not because of his views it's because he's an old man. The way he speaks, the way he can't remember things (ask his staff), the way he can't control emotions. It all points to some sort of dementia. People who knew him 20 or 30 years ago say he was always "not PC" and an ass. But that he was very different with logical opinions and understanding of reality. Unfortunately any true mental evaluation of him is difficult in this team sport political atmosphere.
     
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  2. NotMyRealName

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    There's 339 pages in this thread alone that discuss the guilt (to them) of Trump from every aspect possible. Pretty much in Unison. I have yet to hear anyone from the left with a view that says he is anything but guilty.
    The left side media has provided nothing but PROOF (to them) that Trump is guilty.

    Yes it did occur that Mueller could be playing him. Like I said, Trump could do something really stupid and make it worse on himself. But with all the investigatory retaliation that will come from this, I doubt Mueller is stupid enough to risk his investigative integrity be questioned if he becomes a subject of investigation himself. I have little doubt that the Dems will pay a heavy price for this if Trump walks with no damage from this. Trump and the RNC will retaliate.

    It has become pretty clear that the FBI acted in a corrupt nature, and Trump has at the least explored an attorney that would argue entrapment. I doubt Mueller would want to provide them with ammunition against him.
     
  3. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    He sure acts guilty in all the efforts to discredit the "witch hunt" and the bromance with Putin. I, for one, like to talk evidence rather than proof. And I never count chickens before they hatch.

    Clear only to someone who uses Fox as the main news source. Trump and his minnions have been developing that story line as a cover since the investigation started.
     
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  4. rjhangover

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  5. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Horse shit
     
  6. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    He flip flopped again...now in six months.
     
  7. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Even a gay Muslim would win in 2020
     
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  8. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    Trump already has it in the bag
     
  9. NotMyRealName

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    LOL. I prefer proven evidence that the investigators discover over spoken evidence by any media sources.

    And you have been counting chickens by the hundreds in most of the threads I see you post in.

    Some media shall be wrong and some will not. Time well tell. I don't listen to Fox or CNN so anything I read or take in might be from an "adulterated sources" in your opinion so since our opinions really don't mean chyt in an investigation.

    What Mueller has stated is in question to you? What sources stated his words?
     
  10. NotMyRealName

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    However reliable FiveThirtyEight is. Wasn't it just covered that Gallup is the only reliable poll. Oh wait.....now FiveThirtyEight is too. Got it.


    I wonder what the #WeHateTrump poll would reveal?

    Spring is here, the snowflakes are melting.
     
  11. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So you have concluded that the FBI is guilty after you berate the "left" for concluding that Trump is guilty?

    It's a fact that Trump has lied, and continues to lie, has given away state secrets to the Russians (in secret), his political consultant has pleaded guilty to conspiracy against the United States, his campaign manager has been charged with conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts, being an unregistered agent of foreign principal, false and misleading FARA statements, and false statements, Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort all met with Russian agents to get "dirt" on Hillary Clinton, his campaign adviser George Papadopoulos met twice with Russian agents for the same purpose and has pleaded guilty of false statements to the FBI about his actions....etc.
     
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  12. Okiefreak

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    No, it wasn't covered that Gallup is the only reliable poll. Where did you ever get such a bizarre idea? There are lots of respectable scientific polls out there, and we need lots of them to keep each other honest.
     
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  14. lode

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    FiveThirtyEight isn't a poll. It's an aggregate of polling data, so it includes Rasmussen, the one that has Trump at the 'high' (48% now) approval rating as well.

    Snowflakes? Your idol Trump is the among histories greatest thin skinned cry babies.
     
  15. egger

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    Like Rodney Dangerfield, Trump isn't getting the respect that he thinks he deserves.

    According to an average of various scientifically conducted polls, Trump's favorable rating in the U.S. has been in the 38 to 40% range during the past year. It's mediocre at best, and that's on his home turf.

    Polling of other countries conducted by Pew shows that their view of Trump's ability to handle world affairs is worse than his ratings at home. Israel and Russia are exceptions and have approval ratings of him in the 50's.

    Disturbing is the fact that confidence in Trump is very low in countries that have been the closest allies of the U.S. It is in the range of 10 to 20%, whereas for Obama it was about 80 to 93%. It's consistent with Trump's rhetoric which at times has treated allies like adversaries.

    Trump's poor ratings overseas compromise his ability to form coalitions that are needed for policies to have traction. In spite of this fact, he still chooses to use the approach of talking into the wrong end of a horse and resorting to the hostage-ransom tactic.

    In terms of strategies that China might use to increase its economic and trade stature, it doesn't need to drive a wedge between the U.S. and its allies. Trump is already doing it for them with his caustic rhetoric at allies and his withdrawal from the TPP.


    World Opinion of Trump and U.S.
    By Eugene Kiely
    Posted on September 26, 2017

    World Opinion of Trump and U.S. - FactCheck.org

    Excerpt:

    "At a campaign rally in Alabama, President Donald Trump said “the world is starting to respect the United States of America again.” Surveys suggest otherwise.

    The Pew Global Attitudes Project found that citizens in 35 out of 37 countries have less confidence in Trump than they did in former President Obama. In some cases, far less confidence.

    For example, 86 percent of Germans said they had “a lot of confidence” or “some confidence” in Obama, but only 11 percent said the same of Trump."


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  16. egger

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    In what seemed to be a mild call for a truce in the trade spat with China, Trump's economic advisor made a statement that describes the self-contradictory, barking dog nature of the Trump administration: "Nothing concrete has actually happened."

    Trump pretends to be ruling by decree like a king but with little actions or traction. It's good for Trump's ego, but even some of his strongest supporters like the farmers appear to be growing tired of it.


    The Note: When Trump’s words confound his own government
    By Rick Klein and Emily Goodin
    WASHINGTON, D.C.
    Apr 5, 2018, 5:48 AM ET

    The Note: When Trump’s words confound his own government

    From the article:

    “Nothing concrete has actually happened,” Larry Kudlow, President Donald Trump’s brand-new top economic adviser, said yesterday.

    Kudlow was talking about action on tariffs, in what amounted to an effort to declare a truce in an emerging trade war – prompting expected market rebounds.

    But it’s a sentence with broader relevance in recent days, in a stretch that’s seen the president not just state falsehoods but confound his own government and allies in the process of directing policy on the fly.

    Trump is getting his way – if his goal is to be able to say what he wants. But if his goal is do as he says, he’s running into barriers more formidable than his declarations."
     
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  17. egger

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    How's your 401(k) doing?

    How's your Amazon stock doing?
     
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  18. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Many farmers on the border who voted for him are not happy to find out that their land will be used for the wall (if it existed). They expect to be paid for it. Good luck with that. The US goverment even before Trump takes the land it wants. You would think they would volunteer it for the cause if they cared so much. But they probably did not think it would affect them so they figured no personal action is needed.
     
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  19. egger

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    Trump considers imposing 100 billion dollars of tariffs on China.


    GOP senator on tariff threat: Hopefully Trump is blowing off steam because ‘this is nuts’
    By Julia Manchester
    04/05/18 08:55 PM EDT

    GOP senator on tariff threat: Hopefully Trump is blowing off steam because ‘this is nuts’

    Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) slammed President Trump's announcement Thursday that he was considering imposing $100 billion in tariffs on China amid the ongoing trade dispute between Washington and Beijing, calling it nuts and dumb.

    “Hopefully the President is just blowing off steam again but, if he's even half-serious, this is nuts. China is guilty of many things, but the President has no actual plan to win right now," Sasse said in a statement.

    "He’s threatening to light American agriculture on fire. Let’s absolutely take on Chinese bad behavior, but with a plan that punishes them instead of us. This is the dumbest possible way to do this," he continued.

    Sasse tweeted the statement, breaking his three-month silence on Twitter.


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  20. egger

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    Trump is the kind of person who would borrow money from the farmers to pay for the wall and hire undocumented workers to build it. Then when he reneged on the loan he would sue them for ten times as much, claiming damages due to unfair loan practices. Later it would be learned that he diverted some of the money illegally to pay hush money to a farmer's daughter and for her abortion via a personal lawyer who took out a home equity loan and set up an LLC to hide the payment.
     
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