After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

Lol no I’m not thrown off. I did the grocery shopping and took the dog for a walk.

I think many people own guns as a de facto penis enhancement. You’re free to agree or disagree. Whether you’re able to point to one exception or 20 exceptions has no bearing on the validity of my observations nor does your condescension.

 

This is a discussion forum not a court of law. No one, including you, offers any “proof” of anything. I have offered facts you can choose to ignore them or not. That’s up to you. If you feel insulted grab your gun and don’t engage in the conversation. I respect that choice

As a side note, the nra reports 5 million members. That’s 1% of the population. That’s the very definition of fringe

 

Show me where I said that "no law enforcement officer ever said that AR-15s are hazardous to their profession."

And what do you think about the police's assessment of the danger that assault weapons pose?

 

Yes, I understand that there is no data to support the idea that a pistol grip on a rifle will result in more deaths in a mass shooting scenario. So much for your idea that the pistol grip gives a mass shooter some kind of an advantage.

And the civilian version of the AR-15 is called the civilian version because it's not the military version. And it's the civilian version because it's not fully automatic . . . just like every semiautomatic. It's not rocket science.

 

Yeah, I don't carry a gun around with me, either. What's your point?

Did you know that 91.3% of police surveyed support the concealed carry of firearms by civilians who have not been convicted of a felony and/or not been deemed psychologically/medically incapable? Isn't that insane?

 

Happy that the movement is staying alive. Looking forward to voting it out!

 

Someone provided a link to information about banning AR-15s. In the article, Judge Young quoted former Judge Scalia. I put that in quotations so that you wouldn't confuse what a judge said with what the author of the article said. But you got confused anyway.

 

Yeah, four million home invasions per year. You want to make all the people who have a gun for home protection feel bad about owning a gun. You should be giving your statistical assurances to the people who've been violated in such a way. I'm sure they'd see the wisdom of your counseling.

 

Thank you MeAgain!!

 

I said, "Did you ever wonder why the police have never come out to condemn the AR-15 as a hazard to their profession? You omitted the words "come out" when you quoted me. I think you know what was intended, and that's why you decided to omit some of my words when you quoted me there. I didn't say, "Did you ever wonder why any police officers have never come out to condemn the AR-15 as a hazard to their profession?"

I posted a source which shows that a little over 90% of officers surveyed don't see "assault" weapons as the big bad boogie man that you believe they are. And if you have any problems with my source, or you think that it doesn't actually show what I say it shows--like your school shooting list--let me know, and I'll admit that I was trying to bolster my position dishonestly.

http://police-praetorian.netdna-ssl.com/p1_gunsurveysummary_2013.pdf

 

My sister's just went home with their small and insecure penises, but thanks for the topic of conversation at one of our many get-togethers. All three of us are looking forward to your justification to your pigeonholing of firearms owners into insecure small penised men. They promised a few other women they know will eagerly await your answers. And let me repeat, my sisters are as liberal as you can get, we can't discuss politics without it getting odd. But we find you to be over opinionated and under validated. And that's two women, one man in my tiny poll.

 

You mean like being asked specifically to show how many school shootings the AR-15 has been involved in, and then producing a list of 15 which actually only contained 3? Yeah, that would be an attempt to confuse the issue, besides being a blatant attempt to inflate a number to help me justify my hysterical condemnation of a rifle, wouldn't it. But not to worry. I wouldn't try to confuse the issue in such a dishonest way.

But you did.
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Anyway:

"There isn't any argument that the AR 15 isn't more destructive than most pistols. If it wasn't people would buy pistols instead of an AR 15."

So did you find any data that shows that people buy more AR-15s than pistols? Or was this just a variation on your practice of inflating numbers to help justify your hysterical condemnation of a rifle?

 

This is from my original post. Take note of what I've placed quotation marks around, and what I've not placed quotations marks around.

 

What I respect are people who can discuss a topic without feeling the need to belittle his or her opponent. And while this isn't a court, this is a debate. If you want those on the fence to listen to you, and thus help change policy to your liking, calling anyone that owns a gun weak and suffering from inadequacy is not helping and actually against forum rules.

And there are many millions more who agree with the NRA but dont feel the need to become a member.

 

If you don’t want to engage with me then don’t. I’m not calling gun owners weak or inadequate as an insult. It’s how I see their persistent fear as well as their coping mechanisms for it. I think it’s rooted psychologically in inward feelings of inadequacy. You can view that however you want and you are free to report me too if you’re offended.

1. Prove it. 2. 3x as many is still 3% of the population. It’s still 100 miles from mainstream and 3x is still less than Scientology

 

The fact that there are 80 million gun owners at the least. Not saying that every gun owner agrees but it will be silly to say that no one outside the NRA agrees with the NRA. But let's go with the claim that the NRA is a fringe group. Are you then admitting the NRA doesn't have the political stranglehold that so many gun control advocates say they do? How can a fringe group have that much power?