The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. stormountainman

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    Trump:
    "Feels great to have Bolton & Larry K on board."
    6:38 AM - Apr 11, 2018
     
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    Trump might just be stupid enough to start a war...
     
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  4. McFuddy

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    Never underestimate what a narcissist will do to self aggrandize.
     
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    Mister T, Jim Comey is doing an interview Sunday Night. The word is he will rock Trump's world. He'll be comparing Trump's White House to an organized mob operation...should be a good one!
     
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    The Little Black Book of Billionaire Secrets
    Donald Trump Wins Through Intimidation
    Steve Denning , Contributor
    Aug 7, 2015 @ 01:46 PM

    Donald Trump Wins Through Intimidation

    From the article:

    "Trump could be a model of the hardball player who pursues with a single-minded focus competitive advantage. He picks his shots, seeks out competitive encounters, sets the pace of the debate, and tests the edges of the possible. Above all, he plays to win. And so far his strategy is paying off, with a strong lead in the polls and he remains the center of political attention.

    He is "willing to hurt rivals". He is "ruthless". He is "mean". He can "enjoy watching competitors squirm," telling Rand Paul during the debate that he was “having a hard time.” He is willing to cause discomfort without apologizing, such as disparaging a war hero. He enjoys bare-knuckle boxing and using fakery to deceive opponents. In an effort to win, he is willing to go up to the very edge of legality, exploiting bankruptcy laws for his own benefit, and to hell with the banks and financiers, who are "not the nice, sweet little people that you think.""

    "All this sounded bold and even plausible in 2004, but the experience of the last decade is that the complexity of business today requires a much greater reliance on partnerships and networks and collaboration than ever before. An aggressively adversarial approach to every issue has proved to be disastrous. Few, if any, successfully practice it in business."

    "How do you build networks and partnerships? Stalk and Lachenauer, like Trump, assume that decisions made by leaders are automatically implemented so long as the leaders is hard-nosed enough. Those who don't agree are fired, as in Trump’s television show. Such an assumption is only feasible in situations where the manager has unlimited hierarchical authority -- in other words, a tsar or dictator whose every decision is implemented without question and is never troubled by skeptics."
     
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    Trump is the kind of person who would start multiple wars in the name of national security to use as bargaining chips to try to win previous wars he had already started. He'd say that the pain of going through all of it will make the country better in the end.

    He has already used the tactic by starting trade wars against various countries in the name of national security. It has turned into a web of confusion involving tariff exemptions and retaliations.

    Trump has said that he thinks the farmers will understand that they have to go through the pain of trade wars to get something that he will supposedly give to them later that will make up for it. It sounds similar to what Trump has said to his real estate creditors and contractors.

    Trump brought in the ultra war hawk John Bolton as National Security Advisor. Bolton is to military wars what Robert Lighthizer and Peter Navarro are to trade wars.
     
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    “Get ready Russia, because [the missiles] they will be coming, nice and new and ‘smart!”That was Trump's tweet of the morning--this from a guy who said “I don’t want to telegraph what I’m doing or what I’m thinking,” he tells Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends” in an interview to air Tuesday morning.
    “I’m not like other administrations, where they say we’re going to do this in four weeks.” :
    “I don’t want to telegraph what I’m doing or what I’m thinking,” he tells Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends” in an interview to air Tuesday morning.
    “I’m not like other administrations, where they say we’re going to do this in four weeks.”
    “I don’t want to telegraph what I’m doing or what I’m thinking,” he tells Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends” in an interview to air Tuesday morning.

    Meanwhile, he told his generals and Joint Chiefs that “It’s an attack on our country … what we all stand for"--it being the raid on Cohen's room and office. I'm wondering if the missile attack he's warning Russia about will be on the FBI building and Mueller'a office..
     
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    "Trump speaks his mind and tells it like it is!" doesn't seem so good now, especially in national security matters.

    His applause lines and impulsive showmanship that convinced people to vote for him have become a liability.


    Trump's incoherent, dangerous policy on Syria, as laid out in tweets
    James Kitfield
    Yahoo News
    April 11, 2018

    Trump's incoherent, dangerous policy on Syria, as laid out in tweets

    “The new normal is that President Trump uses Twitter as direct fire to convey his feelings and intent to audiences at home and abroad, bypassing the United States’ entire foreign policy and diplomatic apparatus. It’s now understood around the world that those tweets are a direct pipeline to his thinking, which is an unprecedented and significant development,” said retired Lt. Gen. David Barno, a former senior U.S. commander in Afghanistan, and currently the distinguished practitioner in residence at American University’s School of International Service.

    In weighty matters of war, the president’s tweets may offer a direct conduit to the Trumpian id, but they are unfiltered by a careful calculation of U.S. interests and the risks involved, or by a strategy guiding the actions of a great power. Instead, Trump’s tweets and off-the-cuff pronouncements, Barno notes, reveal “a constant tension between U.S. military commanders who want to sustain a military presence in Syria to consolidate their gains from the defeat of ISIS, and a commander in chief who instinctively dislikes U.S. boots on the ground, but is willing to use bombs and missiles to achieve his goals. Those two ideas remain very much in tension in this administration, and I’m not sure that adds up to a strategy.”

    A number of experts worry, however, that the conflicting signals and constant chaos emanating from the White House will undermine the deft diplomacy, complex messaging and military posturing needed to strike such a deal. The alternative is that the United States continues to lurch between a premature pullout from Syria that could leave a wider regional war in our wake, and a “shoot from the lip” bellicosity that risks miscalculation and conflict with a nuclear superpower.

    “Rather than having a strategy driving our actions, we have a president who speaks and thinks in terms of applause lines and impulsive showmanship, and there is a price to be paid for that kind of strategic incoherence,” said Paul Pillar, a former senior CIA intelligence analyst specializing in the Near East and South Asia. “Our adversaries like the turmoil that messaging sows between the United States and our allies, who are constantly confused about who speaks for the administration, and what exactly to make of the president’s tweets.”
     
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  11. stormountainman

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    we need a new president...nice new and smart
     
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    “...getting really bad dudes out of this country. And at a rate nobody’s ever seen before,”

    "Women are raped at levels nobody has ever seen before."

    "...get results like you've never seen before."

    "...unleashing a new era of American prosperity perhaps like we’ve never seen before.”

    "Prosperity is coming like you've never seen before"

    "...grass roots movement the likes of which the world has never seen before."

    "We're being very, very strong on our southern border, and I would say the likes of which this country certainly has never seen before."

    "They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen."

    "...power the likes of which the world has never seen before."




     
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    These are the words of a carnival barker or infomercial pitchman. But wait...there's more!
     
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    Trump coerces himself into considering rejoining the TPP to try to mitigate damages to farmers caused by the tariffs he imposed.

    Trump has said that TPP was a disaster that couldn't be fixed, not even by the "I alone can fix it" Trump.


    Trump Reverses Course and Proposes Rejoining Trans-Pacific Partnership
    By ANA SWANSON
    APRIL 12, 2018

    Trump Reverses Course and Proposes Rejoining Trans-Pacific Partnership
     
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    A comedy sketch should be done about Trump fighting with himself where he imposes punishments onto himself and later coerces himself into a compromise to save himself, followed by him claiming a victory against himself.

    Trump has already exhibited this type of behavior on Twitter when he posted for a couple weeks about a fictitious election battle he said he would win between him and Oprah Winfrey who has said repeatedly that she is not running for President.
     
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    The dearly departed.

    James Comey
    Sally Yates
    Preet Bharara
    Michael Flynn
    Katie Walsh
    K.T. McFarland
    Michael Dubke
    Sean Spicer
    Michael Short
    Tera Dahl
    Mark Corallo
    Reince Priebus
    Anthony Scaramucci
    Derek Harvey
    George Sifakis
    Ezra Cohen-Watnick
    Carl Icahn
    Steve Bannon
    Sebastian Gorka
    Rich Higgins
    William Bradford
    Keith Schiller
    Tom Price
    Jamie Johnson
    John Feeley
    Rick Dearborn
    Jeremy Katz
    Carl Higbie
    Dina Powell
    Omarosa Manigault Newman
    Taylor Weyeneth
    Rob Porter
    David Sorensen
    Brenda Fitzgerald
    Rachel Brand
    Hope Hicks
    Josh Raffel
    Gary Cohn
    John McAtee
    Rex Tillerson
    Steve Goldstein
    Andrew McCabe
    H. R. McMaster
    David Shulkin
    Todd Johnson
    DJ Gribbin
    Michael Anton, National Security Council spokesman
    Tom Bossert, homeland security adviser
     
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    Trump thinks the U.S. farmers are going to happily take it on the chin for him for his tariffs.


    Trump:

    "Our farmers are great patriots. These are great patriots and they understand that they're doing this for the country. And we'll make it up to them and in the end they're going to be much stronger than they are now."
     
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    An article that describes the difficulty of removing a President from office.


    How President Trump could be removed from office through impeachment or the 25th Amendment
    by Sanaz Tahernia

    How President Trump be removed from office through impeachment or the 25th Amendment

    From the article:

    "Buried within the amendment's language, there's an emergency method for removing the president should it become a necessary course of action. The language found in Article 4 of the 25th Amendment states.

    Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President."

    In other words, if Vice President Mike Pence, along with a majority of Congress and/or President Trump's cabinet believe that he's unfit for office - for whatever reason - this section lays the legal groundwork for President Trump's removal.

    However, even if the necessary parties decide President Trump is unfit for office, Article 4 does give him a path for recourse. If removed from his position, President Trump could respond with a written declaration stating that he is, in fact, fit for office, allowing him to take back the position from which he was removed.

    Vice President Pence would then have four days to submit his own written declaration to Congress, setting forth his position, at which point Congress would have just under a month to vote on the issue in a special session.

    So although there are Americans that believe President Trump is unfit to be Commander-in-Chief for the United States, the process to remove him as president, whether its through impeachment or the 25th Amendment, is a harder and longer road than some think."
     
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    Can Americans Remove An ‘Incompetent’ President?
    Alan Singer, Contributo
    05/15/2017 06:39 am ET
    Updated May 15, 2017

    Can Americans Remove An 'Incompetent' President? | HuffPost

    From the article:

    "As I read this, either the cabinet, “the principal officers of the executive departments,” or Congress by passing a law, can declare a president unfit for office. However, since a deranged or otherwise disabled president can veto Congressional legislation, that path would essentially require 2/3rd majorities in both the House and Senate. There are also procedures included in the amendment for a president to declare him or herself fit and return to office. If there is disagreement about a presidents’ fitness to resume office, “Congress shall decide the issue.”

    Basically, it is very hard to remove a sitting president. It is even harder in the case of Donald Trump because his political party controls both Houses of Congress were the ultimate power resides. Andrew Johnson, Richard Nixon, and Bill Clinton all faced hostile Congressional majorities and none of them was formally removed from office. What all of this means is that the ability to remove a President who appears to have no understanding of the Constitution or governance and respect for the rule of law, rests in the hands of a Republican Party leadership that still believes it will benefit from supporting Donald Trump."
     
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