If You Don't Believe In God Your Stupid

God can be a broad concept. You often don't really know yet what people believe in after they only declared they believe in (a) God.

 

"God" is a product of religion. A hijacker of creation. I believe in creation -- not "God." A god is a person who rules or lords over people.

 

i like that idea, and i like the universal wonder of strangeness. but i'm pretty sure i don't recall hearing it.
my objection to 'christian' exceptionalism, is not an objection to religious belief nor the positive roles it can play, only to the negative ones it is far too often used to excuse.
a god doesn't have to wish to be feared, nor to be at war with other gods or with anything else. nor micromanage nor even be infallible.
the universal wonder of strangeness is just that. what we don't know we don't know, and nothing has to be known in order to exist or not exist as ever it might wish.

 

that's what christians and islamists call a god. a real god, should one (or billions of them) choose to exist, is something nothing human knows jack about, and owes nothing to anything anyone thinks they do.
western religions only think they own god, or a god. the only link that is missing is the one between religions, as the dominant cultures in the western world think of them, and whatever gods or god like beings, might actually happen or choose to exist. totally two different things. i'm not talking about some fake, oh i believe in god and not religion, i mean what we don't know, owes nothing to whatever we might want to think we do.

 

Seems already too narrowed down. But yes, it often comes down to this for religious people.
Not every theist follows a religion neither.

 

God rules over people? After creating the world and the universe he seems to have put up his feet and done sweet FA. He ain't ruling over anybody. He literally doesn't do anything. Jesus on the other hand seems to have done a lot more in his limited life.

 

Jesus supposedly is a part of God Like, the human incarnation. And just because we don't see God intervening on earth doesn't mean we're not ruled by God. If not in life, then in death! Lots of religious folks let their life be guided by the gospel (seems already a form of getting ruled over ) in order to end up in the right place after death (which is decided by... i rest my case )

 

@Asmodean
Thank you for not confusing the immaculate conception with the incarnation.

 

From Deuteronomy:

Hear, O Israel: The Yahweh our Elohim, Yahweh is One!

Elohim is plural for Gods and Yahweh means Eternal Being.

It can be restated: Hear, O Israel, Eternal Being, our Gods, Eternal Being is One!

Fear in the Bible can also mean awe or wonder. I think curiosity and wonder are a lot more positive and powerful motivators than fear. Also, if fear wears off it doesn't work anymore. Wonder and curiosity are self sustaining.

 

Someone who doesn't know the difference between "you're" and "your" is calling people stupid. Oh, how ironic.

 

Also doesn't know the difference between monkeys and apes.

 

My first car was a 1937 Plymouth I got for 25 bucks. Thought I was in heaven. As for the other stuff--presumption makes for wasted time.

 

well i have two "stupid" questions: one: how is christian exceptionalism not hate speech?
and number two: how does the existence or non-existence of one or more gods or god-like beings,
in any way depend upon,
any brand name flavor of belief, having the slightest idea, what the h its talking about?

 

Be careful not to cut yourself on that edge. Are you going through a mid-life Nietzsche crisis phase?

 

does anyone believe in the fairy godmother? i don't think she's a popular myth or anything, just a character from a book/movie.

 

How is it, that anyone can fail to understand
that there is a big enough universe out there,
to be so full, of more stuff, then any of us,
will ever imagine?


And that's just the physical universe,

just the one that we're in,
that we know anything about at all.

We don't know that there isn't also,
a non-physical universe, and maybe even,
lots and lots of both.

So gods, heavens, all of that,
may have analogies,
that are far from identical to existing beliefs,

and yet in some sense,
do fit the kind of meta-niche,
belief's speculate?


And its not about anything having to,

its about the diversity of the unknown,
that makes a universal wonder of strangeness,
with or without, personalities,
having to have anything to do with it.


Why not a god, or many gods,
who are like the little guy behind the curtain,
at the end of the wizard of oz,

without having to be infallible,
micromanage, be at war with anything,
nor have the slightest desire to be feared?

(and all without having bugger all to do,
with christianity, or any other kind named belief?)


why not a heaven and hell, in the same place,
experienced differently by everyone in it,

and why would such a place, have any need for a gate?

Or a god to be there or known there,
except maybe to come by and visit occasionally?

Why death be any more eternal then life?

And why not such a heaven hell,
be simply a layover place,
between completely different lives?

We are told memories are unlikely to endure,
in the absence of a functional physical brain,
to support them.


But what if there is something other then memories,
like for example the complex of preferences,
that define our individual natures,
that do?

So that long after we are gone,
an infant is born on some other world,
who is again, us.

this is what i don't get;
people who say they don't believe in christianity, islam, budhism, what ever,
which is fine,
but then act, as if no other belief of any kind, could ever possibly exist.

that's what i mean by 'christian exceptionalism'

there doesn't have to be a god personality.
there can be. but there's nothing to require this.

 

Regardless of what you call it, do you think that the force that created and governs the universe is conscious and sapient?

 

Only if it's a conspiracy.

 

Tells you to research offers no prof or "research" himself.

"God said so" is not evidence whereas evolution does have evidence observable everyday.

 

If you knew rat you'd know it's not a phase. It's just how he rolls.

He likes Hegel more than Nietzsche though, I think.