Well you know it's not the cake, it's the principle and precedent. It's the issue of discrimination. Some people are concerned about those issues, because they want to live in a decent society.
Are you saying that historically the gay rights movement began at the time of the Civil War? Maybe so. I wasn't trying to do an academic history of the movement. The Stonewall riots made an enormous difference in getting gays out of the closet and into political and legal arenas.
That decent society being where you can go buy automatic rifles, but as long as anyone can order whatever cake they want, everything is ok
There's no point arguing with a brick wall lmao apparently gay discrimination doesn't exist, and the sky is green.
80% of your partners family whom you have never met. Have a problem first and foremost with you being female, thus your partner is gay? There is no way you can know that. Even if they were to say that to your face, still doesnt mean its the real reason. Bet ya half of them its just an excuse so they dont have to have anything to do with your mother in law
This thread is pretty much Matt Hooper and Chief Brody trying to convince Mayor Vaughan to keep the beaches closed through 4th of July weekend
Current consensus is homosapiens have beem around for 340,000 years But I am sure we owe everything to America
Homosexual behavior goes back thousands of years as depicted by petroglyphs and cave paintings Homosexual practice in early hunting parties increased the necessary bonding within the team of men, making it a more effective unit in hunting, particularly in the killing of larger animals. Like the sacred band of Thebes, (an older man paired with a younger boy who were often lovers) the men would hold their ground in the face of the charging beast, mortally wounding it, while sometimes sustaining injury to themselves.
Except at the end of the thread Quint doesnt get eaten by a giant shark, he is denied a wedding cake order, throws a hissy fit and lives to a ripe old age in Florida
This thread is an example of how small minorities make mountains out of molehills when they don't get what they want. I want cake, and I'll sue rather than go somewhere else to get it. These same small groups that preach tolerance, are intolerant of others that live by different principles than they do.
Gotta cha. Free market with no regulations on anything ever. Signs prohibiting entry to people or services based on race, nationality, religion, etc. permitted. Businesses free to require identification badges proclaiming race, religion, nationality, etc. before entry or service is granted. Here, I'll help you out:
Again, I'm for a business' right to enforce whatever discriminatory rule they want. However if they put up a "whites only" sign. They'll be out of business very quickly.
Not sure exactly what your point is. I was talking exclusively about the United States and am completely unfamiliar with the situation in Europe and Australia. Whatever progress there was in the U.S., as late as 1979 (Stonewall) there were periodic routine raids of gay bars in various parts of the country, sodomy was a felony in many states, and gay marriage was an oxymoron. So whatever was going on before that, gays had a long way to go, and they did so quickly after the '70s.
Is there any documented case of this Baker doing the following: Denying service to atheists? Denying service to Jews? Muslims? How about telling a Satanist to leave his establishment? Can we stop pretending this is about religion and morals and accept the fact that this is discrimination plain and simple? This not about "living by different principles;" this is about being a prick.
In Oklahoma, we had "sundown tpwns"--"whites only" communities where African-Americans had to be out of town by sundown.James W. Loewen, Sundown Towns: A Hidden Dimension of American Racism. Okemah, Henryetta, Marlow, Cleveland, Paden, Stilwel, and Norman were in this category in the 1940s. Where was the "free market" then? Very much at work, I'd say.