Are the Democrats back on track?

Maybe the dems will help trump build his wall to keep millennials from fleeing to Mexico for socialism LOL

 

Europe isnt pure socialist, they employ mixed economies to varying degrees, just like America.

And if they continue to outperform America in education, healthcare, etc, isnt it pretty stupid to not emulate what works for them? We should be happy in our mediocrity because our founding fathers left Europe hundreds of years ago?

I dont really get that, seems a bit like cutting off our nose to spite our elbow

 

Americans shoot the nose off.

 

It is better than being persecuted and/or killed for what you believe... that's not saying much.
In addition, that isn't happening in Europe anymore.

America isn't alone in that, and it isn't even the best place for other things.

 

How the hell should I know? I'm sorry, I don't keep a running tally of every book I've ever read and a personal index of what knowledge I have from which sources. But, if I must, I've read Howard Zinn, David McCullough, Eric Foner, Dee Brown, John Barry, seen numerous Ken Burns documentaries, was two credits shy of a history minor in college because I found it so interesting, and even wrote a paper on Elizabeth Cady Stanton. Is that enough?

I didn't realize I'd need to validate my level of expertise to post on a goddamn hippie message board.

I never said ALL governments in Europe were socialist. Sorry, I used the blanket statement "Europe has been socialist for years" thinking people would be able to understand that wasn't the same as "ALL governments in Europe are socialist."

Never said that either. I said Europe has been socialist for years (it has) and that Europeans have emigrated the the US in search of better opportunity (they have). But the statements were unrelated. Just because I made both statements, doesn't mean I meant they were connected.

Depends on one's definition of both Europeans and colonize. I say the Spaniards; others argue it was, I believe, the Vikings.

What of them? I was specifically talking about those who--once again--came here in search of better opportunity.

 

Yes. Again, I never stated otherwise.

Being 17th in education is abysmal. We can and should do better. No one will deny that. But is that really the result of failing to embrace socialist policies and ideas? And, is education, possibly, relative? How can such an uneducated country lead the world in technology and innovation? Why do immigrants continue to come--in numbers so large, they've got the status quo in this country scared to the point of scrambling to put up a big brick wall between us and them? Why are so many of India's and Africa's best and brightest coming to America to study and practice medicine? According the Institute of International Education, there are currently over 700,000 international students pursuing degrees in this country--a 32% increase since 2000. These rates increase 1%-15% each year. Isn't it safe to say that America being dumb and uninviting is a bit of an over simplification?

 

I'm speaking of the waves of European immigration in the mid-to late 19th century and the early 20th century...

...what are you talking about?

I never said it was.

I'll take your word for it. I've only lived in one country, so I wouldn't know. How many have you lived in?

 

Err... the pilgrims.

I'm not saying America wasn't a great place to live or to make a fortune at that time... but that hardly seems relevant now.

Then why bring it up?

7.

 

Well, there's the problem...we're not talking about the same thing.

I didn't.

And which country do you reside in now?

 

I read that a study from Harvard came out that “everyone” (US citizens) acts “more republican” on July 4th lol

Thought that was funny. Apparently, patriotism is construed as an anti-democratic trait?

Thought I’d share. Carry on......

 

I think it just means 'obnoxious and bombastic'...

 

IMO, they need to rid themselves of the old guard and get more young in offices. Pelosi is such a target. Go full on for Universal health care, education that would enable people to go as far as they can , being paid for by cutting waste from government and making fewer weapons of war, among other issues. And for damn sure--RE-INSTITUTE THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE TO CUT THE LEGS OFF FOX "NEWS", Rush Limbaugh and the rest of the lying right wingers that don't really give a shit about this country except to make money off the taxpayers and the rich right-wing donors. We need to get rid of this whole RACIST cabal.

 

I've been to Mexico before. It's a great country, once you get away from the lawless border. Even the border towns like Nogales was nice in the 1970s. They have some nice college towns just west of Mexico City. The Mexican people are smart and tough and love their families. When you have Mexicans for friends you've got friends for life.

 

We also need to bring back the equal air time requirement so radio stations must give Democrats equal time for Democrat opinions...not just Hannity garbage all day and night. While we are at it, I want to see some serious rent controls, so poor people would have a place to live and landlords and slum lords could be held accountable.

 

What you said is true. I would like to point out that Republican enacted laws like "Employment At Will" create an environment where people need to work and do work then are cheated by their employers. That's very unfair. The trucking industry for years stole from the drivers...saw it my own self!

 

Maybe they only studied the beer and fireworks part of it all. My grandfather used to treat the 4th like it was thanksgiving sort of. We'd have a big meal then he'd tell us stories about WW2 stuff he survived (Army). Then came the drinking, then the explosives!!!

Every freakin year.

 

And mentally stunted due to alcohol consumption.

 

I agree in principal, you're absolutely right. However, far left radio just doesn't sell ads. Air America only lasted 6 years, about 5 longer than it might without a LOT of donor help whipped up by Al Franken (before he went after sleeping women's breasts).

Part of the problem is that very few people with an opposing view would call in. Most called in to say "yes, you're right". It was dull D-U-L-L.

But then, so is Limbaugh. Somehow he sells ads (which means you have to hear him even during the fkin commercials).

 

Education in the US has become the new class boundary (though it was a class boundary in colonial history as well). Today the lower classes are being told they need a degree to get ahead. Then they take out crippling loans and go to cheaper schools and get paper that few want to buy. It's a trick you see. Since they can't legally keep the underclass out of the better schools, they found a way to saddle them with debts that will stunt their progress by a whole decade while their upper class classmates walk into cushy, connected positions.

It's depressing and too many Americans surrender to it from the beer swilling Appalachian rednecks to the gang wannabe inner city losers we have reinvented serfs and even slaves. If you think about it, Minimum Wage is the most accessible form of slavery. The slaver gets not only cheap labor, but doesn't have to spend a dime to care for the laborers, ever. Pensions were robbed and bankrupted out of existence, replaced with 401K plans that grow at a meager rate thanks to fund management fees and marginal returns.

There's also a tax wall that Americans hit. It's in place to keep the medium, rising classes in check. Jumping into the upper classes just about requires a very dedicated multi-generational plan (maybe even arranged marriages, could be why so many rich people are butt ugly).