Are the Democrats back on track?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    What's the tl;dr on that, George?
     
  2. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    What the intercourse is "tl;dr"?
     
  3. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    Too long; didn't read

    It's not an insult or anything. I'm just too lazy and drunk.

    What's the synopsis man? Some of your posts are a book.
     
  4. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    No problem, I'm working toward the same.

    I only mean that democrats are better able to reach people when they are pushing jobs, the economy, homes and bling.
     
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  5. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    I think you are the absolute tits when you keep it simple like that. Me stoopid. Me like eaze.
     
  6. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    Check out the "Holcroft Covenant" at the 1:21:00 mark for a few minutes.
     
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  7. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

  8. The Democrats are off base as usual. They're acting like Russia changed the real outcome of the last election, which it didn't. Hillary was just a terrible candidate.

    Their candidate pool for the next election is garbage, so they're putting out this whole Russia thing to make themselves look like the ones who save us from the Russian menace.

    Or this is a joint KGB/CIA operation to suggest that Russia could tamper with our election, which calls into question our entire notion of voting for candidates which ushers in a totalitarian state in which candidates are simply selected.
     
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  9. Okiefreak

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    Many things changed the real outcome of the election: the Benghazi witch hunt, the Russian hacking and wikileaks, the Comey memo days before the election, the absurd Pizzagate fake news which some took seriously, and yes, the fact that she was a weak candidate. But for all that, she was better than Trump, which is who we'll get for another term if we don't start thinking realistically, and recognize that "this whole Russia thing" is real. (As I recall, you were one of the True Believers in Pizzagate). It's a binary choice: Democrat or Republican.
     
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  10. No, that's where the Democrats are off base. This has nothing to do with Russia. You're forgetting how many people voted for Bernie in your list of things that changed the outcome of the election. She never had a chance. Because she was a corporate oligarch candidate. If Democrats don't get it together and see that's not where the public is, then they will lose again. And they haven't learned that lesson at all.

    You guys simply refuse to learn that lesson. That it actually is the quality of your candidate that receives or loses votes. It's not Russia's fault. It's not Bernie's fault. It's not even Trump's fault. It's YOUR fault for backing someone so few people actually even want. The party has gone its separate ways. I, and a million others like me, will be looking for another Bernie this election, and we won't vote for whichever corporate friendly candidate they say is the best. Even if that means four more years of Trump.

    I'm not ashamed in the least for my opinions about Pizzagate. If nothing else, it showed just how much people trust the Democrats. That's right, we think there's a chance they might be raping little kids. That's how fucking smarmy they are. No, I'm not kidding. They give me the creeps. Republicans too. It's not just Democrats. They are very undisciplined with their power.

    Things seem different when you've got a news media, of course. Now the media can act like they weren't the ones everyone was pissed at for tampering with the elections. No, it was Russia. It wasn't you who was blacking out Bernie's speeches and running a 24/7 Trump news cycle. But now that there's Russia, we've got a news media, right? There's another boogie man and they're on the case. Now people are being held accountable for their actions. But if you recall four years ago this wasn't the case at all. The corporate oligarchy was getting away with murder, quite literally. And they still are.
     
  11. scratcho

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    "ihat's right, we think there's a chance they might be raping little kids. That's how fucking smarmy they are. No, I'm not kidding. They give me the creeps. " I suggest that you GET SOME FUCKING HELP!!!
     
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  12. You're shouting belligerantly and I'm the one who needs help?

    The subject of whether or not your leaders are that smarmy is that touchy for you??? I suggest you get help.
     
  13. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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  14. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    So, you believed that Hillary Clinton was running a child rape center in back of a pizza shop? Yeah---I'll be debating you over---NOTHING.
     
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  15. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    She's not repeating the same mistakes. She got the majority of the popular vote. She just got hurt by Comey's last minute public statements, and the Cyber Effort from Russia which was designed to help push Trump in Wisconsin, Ohio, and Michigan.
     
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  16. 6-eyed shaman

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    John Kerry’s strongest platform was “anyone but Bush.” And of course he was a lackluster candidate who lost a very winnable campaign and the popular vote against a shitty standing president.

    If the dems keep heading the same direction, they’ll run another lackluster candidate like Kerry, hand the popular vote over to Trump, and lose the election all over again.

    I agree with neonspectraltoast, I’m just not seeing any sign of the Democrats learning from their past mistakes.
     
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  17. No, that wasn't what I thought. I wouldn't imagine Hillary Clinton has sex. I don't think she'd like to get that close to another person's body.

    But I didn't really want to talk about Pizzagate and you'll note for good measure that I'm not the one who brought it up.
     
  18. McFuddy

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    Holy shit. I agree with 6 about something.

    Has to be a sign. The apocalypse is upon us.
     
  19. tumbling.dice

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    What I was implying is that it would be insane for the Dems to nominate her again. And people keep saying she got a majority of the popular vote but she did not; neither candidate did. Clinton received 48.2% of the vote and Trump got 46.1%.
     
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  20. stormountainman

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    Well, I agree in part. HC did not get enough popular votes to win the electoral college. She did get 2.9 million more votes than Trump. She was hurt by Comey's public release about reopening her case...implying a criminal investigation. That hurt her. I also think Jill Stine took away enough votes to cause her to lose Wisconsin and Michigan. That would have given her the electoral vote victory. The interesting thing is the change in Trump's strategy in October. It came right after the Russian Hacking where the Democrat Party "Analytics" were stolen. The information was used to target voters individually in Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. That was (1) illegal and (2) It is a part of what Mueller is working on. I don't want the usual Elite of the Democrat party to be nominated...meaning Hillary or Biden. I don't want Bernie who is not a Democrat. I would prefer someone new, young, loveable, huggable, environmentalist, civil/human rights champion, and an in-your-face anti Republican. There is a bunch of money being donated to the Democrats and they have wised up to the dirty pool playing by the Republicans. in about 100 days we'll see how thing are turning up?
     
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