9/11

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  1. GLENGLEN

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    Just Viewed What I Feel Is The Best Explanation For What Happened That Caused

    Them To Fall The Way They Did.......I Don't Know How To Post It......But It's On U-Tube Under

    Discovery UK-How The Twin Towers Collapsed.

    Well Worth Viewing.



    Cheers Glen.
     
  2. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Now to your custard example.

    No doubt Gordon Ross is delivering pizzas now or driving taxis, as no one is going to hire him as a structural engineer after that, not that he was in the first place.

    By volume, the main material that makes up the towers is actually air. They are office buidings, the air between floors, netwerm the walls. - One of the reasons a simple floor by floor conservation of momentum calculation is useless, you'd have to take into account how each floor is pressurized when impacted ( whether the windows are intact or not).

    The density of custard is actually less than water, 947 kg per cubic meter

    As a little side homework assignment camlock and storch, you can tell me why density of water is 997 kg per cubic meter at sea kevel, and not 1000 kg per cubic meter.

    Anyhoo, density of steel is about 8000 kg a cubic meter. Density of reinforced conctete is 2500 kg per cubic meter. Density of non reinforced concrete is 2000 kg per cubic meter.

    So Unless the ratio of volume of air to volume of concrete / steel is under about 6:1 in the towers, a giant vat of custard the same dimensions as say the north tower, would weigh more than the north tower

    In fact wtc 1 was about 3800 sq metres per floor and 417 m high not including the antenna. So a vat full of custard same size would be 1.5 million tonnes

    Your Dr Denning dickhead, or whatever his name was said each floor weighed 675 tonnes, × 110 floors is roughly 75,000 tonnes.

    So same volume replaced with custard would weigh 20 times what the north tower weighed.

    That is, planes or no planes, if you somehow managed to replace, say the top 20 floors with custard, same volume, yes, it would have collapsed under its own weight.

    Camlock and storch were laughing, patting them selves on the back, without even checking that
     
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  3. camlok

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    You are thru with lying about the science and facts of the USGOCT. You know full well that the US government murdered 2,996 Americans, ... on 9/11 and you keep trying, lamely, to cover for these murderers. Why?
     
  4. camlok

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    Zero evidence as always, VG. And you don't even seem to be ashamed of yourself.
     
  5. camlok

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    Why do you lies so much, VG? It was nanothermite as found by Harrit et al. Which is the peer reviewed paper that has never been contested. It is the standing science of the day.
     
  6. camlok

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    Nanothermite can be sprayed on or painted on and it can be detonated by remote control. This is a highly explosive nano scale thermite/thermate that is much safer to use than regular explosives.

    Plus there was a huge elevator upgrade in the years prior to 9/11. But focus on all the impossibilities, RH, the molten/vaporized WTC steel, the nanothermite found in WTC dust, the by products of the nanothermite explosions, free fall, twin towers steel the strength of custard pudding, ... .

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    http://aneta.org/911experiments_com/AceElevator/

    ACE Elevator Company
    9/11 Questions and Research

    How could explosives be planted in the WTC?

    Ace is the trump card to win a new 9/11 investigation

    By Rick Shaddock, ANETA Writing Team
    with thanks to Dr. Crockett Grabbe (PhD, Physics, CalTech)

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    Although we do not know exactly how explosives could have been planted in the World Trade Center prior to 9/11, without detection, we do know two things for sure. Other possible explanations were not considered in the 9/11 Commission or NIST Reports. Key people were not even mentioned in the final reports.

    The possibility of controlled demolition was not seriously considered in the Nine Eleven Official Conspiracy Theory (NEOCT). There were workers with unfettered access to parts of the builds that were perfect for the planting of explosives, such as in the elevators shafts next to the vertical support columns, and above the ceiling panels next to the horizontal beams. There were also fireproofing renovation workers.

    Dr. Niels Harrit has estimated that it would take "tons" of explosives to demolish the buildings. Demolition experts such as Tom Sullivan have said that it would be quite easy to plant them, if a group had access to the elevator shafts, next to the core columns.

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    Workers had access to unoccupied areas by day, and in occupied areas by night, and on week ends. Workers from the A.C.E. Elevator Company in the WTC elevator shafts from 1994 until 9/11/2001 were not even mentioned in the final reports. Neither was LVI Services, working on the asbestos removal project. Nor were the fireproofing workers. (See video)

    The words "Ace elevator" or "A.C.E." (herein ACE) are not found anywhere in the PDF files of the 9/11 Commission or NIST reports, although "elevator" appears multiple times. You can check this out for yourself. The names of the security company, "Securacom" (renamed "Stratesec" after 9/11), are not found either. If the security company cannot be trusted, than there are many ways the explosives could be brought in. The building owner is also key. The landlord, Larry Silverstein is only mentioned in the WTC 7 report, as a contributor. http://911Experiments.com/reports.

    With the assistance of Frank Lowy, Paul Eisenberg, and Ronald Lauder, Larry the N.Y. Port Authority turned over the management to Silverstein Properties. He hired the firm Kroll for security.

    Kevin Ryan has well researched who had access to the WTC towers in his article. Demolition Access to the WTC Towers: Part One - Tenants

    According to Dennis Cimino, interviewed on Dr. James Fetzer's show, there were other fake sounding names on the list of renovation contractors working on the World Trade Center.

    This report will focus on ACE.

    ACE got the WTC contract, the biggest elevator project in history, There was an article "Drive to the Top" in the trade magazine Elevator World about the ACE project.

    Elevator modernization would be the perfect cover for the planting of explosives. Tom Sullivan, who worked for Controlled Demolition Inc., said that the elevator shafts, next to the load bearing columns, would be the perfect place.
    http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-sectio: n/41-articles/529-tom-sullivan-eso.html
     
  7. camlok

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    Fireman telling of secondary and three more explosions after that.

    9/11 Firefighters Reveal Bombs Destroyed WTC lobby



    NIST stated that the Pancake Theory of collapse was impossible. And it was. Because you don't see floors pancaking, you see floors being blown up. There is no available energy in a pancaking floor collapse to turn all the concrete in micron sized particles.

    WTC steel with the strength of custard pudding means that steel was blown up by a controlled demolition.
     
  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Already been disproven and camlock knows it. No thermite was ever found
     
  9. camlok

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    As always, zero evidence from a USGOCT conspiracy theorist. Show everyone your engineering credentials, VG.

    What a laugh!!!!!
     
  10. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Its one or the other dude. Either that internal stucture was intact or it wasnt.

    If intact, no magic thermite, if not intact floors collapse. You are the one that backed yourself into the silly logic corner
     
  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    You didnt even bother checking, you wouldnt have been able to work it out yourself.

    Every single paper i have seen by a pro truther always makes the same mustake, not even a mention if what the air in each floor has to do with it
     
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    Another of VG's flat out lies. Always with zero evidence. Just deny deny deny lie lie lie, repeated over and over.

    Just google Harrit et al Nanothermite and it takes you right to the scientific paper.
     
  13. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Ok, so you as well as storch believe all the concrete turned into magic fairy dust
     
  14. camlok

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    No evidence ever from VG, just wild crazy desperation. Show us your engineering credentials, VG.
     
  15. camlok

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    You really do hate evidence, don't you, VG. Again zero evidence from you. Honest people would be ashamed of themselves for such a dismal showing.
     
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    All you have is "mustakes". And of course, zero evidence. Show us your engineering credentials, VG.
     
  17. camlok

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    Being pro truth is a good thing. Being anti truth like you are is not a good thing except for a USGOCT conspiracy theorist who will lie lie lie to protect those who murdered your fellow citizens. EVIL!!!!

    Those pro truthers are scientists, engineers, architiects, physicists, ... .

    What are you, VG? Still no credentials, still no evidence, not a speck from you, EVER.
     
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  19. Vanilla Gorilla

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    It was never peer reviewed in the first place and has already been disproven. I will let hotwater and others who are interested fing more recent updates
     
  20. Vanilla Gorilla

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    You are the guy that wondered why a 1.5 million tonne vat of custard wouldnt collapse on itself.

    A- hahahahaha
     

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