The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Wrong! That was not PUSHING and that was not EXTORTING! That was a product of negotiating. American diplomats decided to REWARD them for backing off their nuke activities. Under international law they were able to do certain things. Saddam Hussain had to give up weapons because he had invaded Kuwait. North Korea had not invaded anyone and could not be prevented from anything by the international community. In contrast, the good ole USA won't sign several international protocols or conventions or treaties and violates any damn thing at any damn time, even the Geneva Convention. The USA don't give a flying frog about torture or treaties with Indians or environmental protection agreements. John Bolton just told the world-ON BEHALF OF TRUMP-that the International Criminal Court is dead to us. So now other world leaders can be turned over for international prosecution but not American leaders. Real Friggin Nice! America is no longer the world beacon for morality. America is now a haven for rich guys who commit international crimes.
     
  2. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Have you ever heard of Jimmy Carter?
     
  3. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So what? Service in the military is not a requirement to be President.
    We've had 13 presidents who didn't serve.
     
  4. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Carter was in the Navy.
     
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  5. Okiefreak

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    On reflection about Lindsey Graham's performance on Friday, seems to me he might be interviewing for a job himself: Attorney General, maybe. How else to explain his histrionics and obvious sucking up to the Donald, now that his ol' buddy McCain is safely planted?
     
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    John McCain’s remarkable mother: At 106, Roberta McCain has outlived her son
    By Rachel Siegel
    September 1, 2018

    John McCain’s remarkable mother: At 106, Roberta McCain has outlived her son

    excerpt:

    "Once, when traveling through France in her 90s, Roberta was told she was too old to rent a car. So instead, she bought one. At the end of her vacation, she had the car shipped back to the East Coast, where she picked it up and drove it to San Francisco, she told the Times."
     
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  7. NotMyRealName

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    Then don't bitch about Trump's lack of military service if it doesn't disqualify a president.
     
  8. NotMyRealName

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    Absolutely. Apples and Oranges in regards to military service. I never said a Demo hasn't served in the military. Or that it was a requirement to be president. You're assaulting Trump for his lack of military service.
     
  9. stormountainman

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    That's a big ten dash four! As we say it in the trucking business!
     
  10. stormountainman

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    I am not assailing or assaulting. I am just delivering a factual statement pursuant to his Fire and Fury empty threats. Trump reminds me of a short fat guy named Bobby who used to claim he knew Karate. The other men in the bar used to laugh so hard that they had to make a mad dash to the toilet...to avoid wetting themselves.
     
  11. NotMyRealName

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    Politicians care about 3 things. Re election Re election and Re election. He's cranking up his priorities
     
  12. NotMyRealName

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    So the whole bone spurs part is for what?
     
  13. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    When Trump won the election, he claimed he would be president to all Americans. Instead he's done his best to step on every minority group, including Mexicans and Muslims. He's treated Puerto Ricans like they were non-Americans. He's attacked people on public assistance like Medicaid. He's destroyed environmental protection. He's destroyed protections for endangered animals. He's ruined safe drinking water. He's energized Neo Nazi-white supremacist groups. He's ruined consumer financial protection in favor of rip-off corporations. He's attacked FCC regulations which protect American families. He insulted Native Americans. He insulted a black woman who serves as a Florida member of Congress. He's put Mexican children in cages and separated them from their parents. He insulted a woman who serves in the United States Senate. He supported a judge from Alabama who has been called out as a pedophile. He's nominated a pervert and alcoholic to the highest court in the nation. He's paid two women for sex. And he's told Billy Bush that he likes to grab women by the pussy. I just don't see how he could claim to be every American's president?
     
  14. stormountainman

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    He is the one who said he avoided Viet Nam because he had bone spurs!
     
  15. NotMyRealName

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    Ok and you have no problem with that then?
     
  16. egger

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    Wannabe alpha male behavior is a more concise term for Trump.


    It's an alpha male thing: what dominant chimpanzees and Donald Trump have in common
    Dan P McAdams
    Thu 14 Sep 2017 06.00 EDT
    Last modified on Wed 14 Feb 2018 16.18 EST

    It's an alpha male thing: what dominant chimpanzees and Donald Trump have in common

    excerpts:

    "For human beings today, dominance and prestige compete with each other as the two primal expressions of leadership.

    When it comes to US presidents, we expect to see a bit of both.

    For Trump, however, it is dominance all the way through."


    "One of the most bizarre (and psychologically telling) events in the Trump administration so far was the president’s first full cabinet meeting, on 12 June 2017.

    With the cameras rolling, each cabinet official in turn proclaimed how honored or blessed he (or she) was to serve the primal leader. The vice-president, Mike Pence, began the submission fest with these words: “Thank you, Mr President, and this is the greatest privilege of my life, to serve as vice-president to a president who is keeping his word to the American people and assembling a team that is bringing real change, real prosperity, and real strength back to our nation.”

    And on it went, around the room, one obsequious gesture after another. Similarly, chimps show a wide range of deference displays in the presence of the alpha, including grooming, stroking, bowing, and other variations on the theme of sucking up.

    In the prestige paradigm of leadership, the president’s cabinet would be viewed as a body of experts charged with running government agencies and providing the president with critical advice. But under the aegis of dominance, specific expertise is irrelevant. What matters instead is fealty to the alpha. "

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  17. egger

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    Make Authoritarianism Great Again

    Trump, Putin, Kim Jong-un, Duterte, Erdogan, Xi Jinping, Viktor Orban, Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, Narendra Modi.



    Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin and the lure of the strongman
    All vow to lead a national revival through force of personality and willingness to ignore niceties
    by Gideon Rachman
    May 16, 2016

    Subscribe to read | Financial Times

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    "Mr Trump and Mr Putin seem to have formed something of a mutual admiration society. Strongman leaders often get on very well — at least initially. But because their relationships are based on a shared style and swagger, rather than underlying principle, they also often fall out spectacularly. Mr Erdogan used to have close relationships with Mr Putin and with President Bashar al-Assad of Syria but these have turned into bitter enmities. Further back in history, the 1939 pact between Hitler and Stalin gave way within two years to war between Germany and the Soviet Union.

    The alarming truth is that the impact of strongman leaders is rarely confined within national borders. All too often, the undercurrent of violence that they introduce into domestic politics spills over on to the international stage."


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  18. MeAgain

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    So you don't understand the point, I see. It's not just that he didn't serve.

    Trump played football, tennis, and squash and had a perfect health record, yet received a 1Y for heel spurs which he termed temporary. There is no record of the diagnosis. He no longer has them..he claims they healed on their own.
    Then he claimed he had a high draft number and that kept him out. But he was eligible for the draft for a year before the birthday system was implemented. He already had his 1Y.
    Then he got a 4F, I don't know how he did that.

    Trump insults members of the armed services and their families.
    A partial list.
    Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: "He knew what he signed up for"
    “He was a war hero because he was captured," Trump said at a 2015 event early in the presidential primary season. “I like people who weren't captured.” in reference to John McCain.
    He compared his sacrifice of erecting “great structures” to that of Khizr and Ghazala Khan who lost their son Humayun in Iraq.
    He claimed Obama didn't call the families of fallen veterans, he did. Trump lied. At the time Trump had failed to communicate with fallen veterans' families.
    He claimed he was smarter than the generals.
    He claimed avoided venereal disease was his personal Vietnam.
    He used the death of General Kelly's son in Afghanistan to attack Obama.
    He distorts the football players protest of police actions into an attack by them on the military foot soldiers.
    He claimed Obama and H. Clinton reduced the military and its generals to rubble. A blatant lie.

    The problem is he uses the miltary and those who serve as a politacl tool, yet he didn't serve.

    Obama didn't do that nor did Nixon, Clinton, Ford, Carter, Reagan, etc., etc., etc.
     
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  19. MeAgain

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    Trump claim he loves Kim Jong-Un.
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  20. stormountainman

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    I made an observation about his public statement. I never told you that I had a problem with it. Initially, I pointed out to you Trump's big talk about Fire and Fury. He's rich and a big city man and he never served in the military. In Colorado and Wyoming there are tough men who work in feed lots, packing houses, drive trucks, and frame houses. They are tough men. They never let their mouth write a check which their ass cannot cash.
     
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