State Your Unpopular Opinions

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Fluffernutter, Jul 11, 2009.

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  2. GLENGLEN

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    Bat Women.......Perhaps......But Batman......No Cigar....... :D



    Cheers Glen.
     
  3. FrostyDog

    FrostyDog Official Ol' Geezer

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    I agree. That is something that has been needing attention for a while now.
     
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    I'm Batman.
     
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  6. FrostyDog

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    Today's music is actually overhyped shit! name something released now that will be here in 40 years! Autotuning should be illegal. Men are becoming women and women are becoming men. Bitches are trying to rule the world. I feel sorry for Bill Cosby. Jesus is fictional.
     
  7. Born25YearsTooLate

    Born25YearsTooLate Hunting the mighty whifflesnark

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    (looks at the four pages of text and hour's worth of writing, then deletes it)

    No. I had written a carefully constructed post about the nature of choice, of the nature of opinions, and realized that it wouldn't go. So I'm going to keep this short and simple.

    @Asmodean - I agree with you that the thread shouldn't be closed. Unpopular opinions are just that. Sometimes inflammatory, sometimes outright offensive. But to not be able to post them because they upset the echo chamber is worse.

    My opinion of neo was posted in response to her questioning of 'why' I found her offensive. So that's my justification - she asked. I told.
    This does not necessarily describe her as a person - merely my perception of her. But as such, it was honestly delivered.

    I have no shame, and I will not apologize for holding to my morals of 'if asked, I will honestly answer.' This issue is dead.

    I have found myself in possession of a further unpopular opinion.
    Dare I share it, or will I be judged for doing so? And that's the big question here. This is what's got such an uproar is 'Do I have the right to share an unpopular opinion if it truly is unpopular?'

    here goes, because I care much less than usual today -

    Hipforums has devolved into an edgy, emo echo-chamber, where people talk about unpopular things in threads like this, but only within boundaries set by a core group of political pushers and pullers. So even the unpopular opinions are sanitized, broken down into bite sized chunks of pre-approved talking points. So nothing's really 'unpopular'. It's all been approved by 'the state' 1984 style, and to do otherwise is to face censure or harassment. It's high school, all over again, with the preppy cliques of hypocritical backbiters and gossips, who smile face to face and talk trash about each other the second they 'leave the room'. I face the same problem I did in high school - nobody wants to hear the truth. Just like neo's comments about the gmo crops - she didn't want the truth, she wanted to be agreed with. And that's what it is here. Nobody cares about the truth.. they just want agreement for their own particular biases, their own particular ego-invested talking points. And one of my morals is honesty. I might be honestly wrong about something, but that's not from malfeasance, but being misinformed or badly researched.

    So it's a sham. There's no honesty to it. And that's what's caused me to decide that I'm pulling out of the discussions. I'm trimming my followed list to a couple of people I interact with on pm, and I may, quite possibly, just call it quits here entirely. For what it's worth, I care about most of you, probably more than I should, and it pains me to withdraw, but it's become obvious through the attempts to shame and censure me, that I am not compatible with most of the discussions here. I find myself biting my tongue too often, having to check and censor a comment, because if I don't, someone will find a way to be offended, and find the one thing to take out of context, rather than attempt to understand.

    'Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply' - Stephen R. Covey

    That is why I refer to hf as an echo chamber. People don't seek anything except to hear their own opinions bounced back to them. Even I'm guilty of it, but I have a higher standard for myself, so that's why I'm backing away. Maybe to leave, maybe not. I haven't decided yet, but Iv'e found that this board, and the people on it, despite how I feel about them personally.. it makes me angry to be here. It's frustrating seeing the supposedly 'smarter' or 'more enlightened' set be no better than the ones they complain about 'on the outside'.

    I offer this - I apologize for those I have offended in whatever way - however, I acted along my morals, and so if I offended, I did so honestly. For what it's worth, I don't /hate/ anyone, but there are people that I have ignored, because they irritate me to no end. There are people that have wrong ideas about me, but I'm not going to try and change their minds. This is not meant to be a backhanded 'I'm sorry you got offended' comment, but 'I'm actually sorry we couldn't work it out.'

    I'm going to go smoke my bacon and although I might be on the online list, I think it's best that I simply don't speak at all for a while. It's been proven that my morals are not compatible with the ones at large, and that is an unhappy thing for me. But I'm tired of fighting, and tired of defending myself and justifying myself.

    Honestly, I'm just tired of being /here/ in general, but I don't have anywhere else to go.
     
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  8. FrostyDog

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    God damn.....I'm going back to bed now. Shit that wore me out just trying to read that!
     
  9. Asmodean

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    I don't know why people want to be Batman.

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  10. SpacemanSpiff

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    this thread would be better if people would just state their unpopular opinions instead of trying to correct other peoples opinions

    we all have our own truths
     
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  11. Deidre

    Deidre Follow thy heart

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    In theory, it’s good but it seems like it would end up becoming a controlling government. Maybe state governments only as opposed to a federal main government would work.
     
  12. Born25YearsTooLate

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    ok, so I failed to live to your expectations of me. Who gave you the right to expect anything at all of me?

    as for the reason why? maybe because I hate my life and everything in it? maybe I'm sick of the hypocritical bullshit? maybe I've been contemplating suckstarting a shotgun hemingway style? maybe because I'm irritated and frustrated with life, and once, for one night, I'd had 'enough' and instead of anyone else asking 'hey, what's the deal' you motherfuckers decided you needed to try and shame me, or tutt at me like I'm some delinquent child.

    at least you asked - so for that, I thank you, but I'll also remind you that I didn't 'turn' on the 'collective' hip forums members. I told one person, who asked me, what I thought of them, and another one, who chose to make it business that it wasn't, to mind her own and take her nose elsewhere. If you consider that an attack on 'the hip forums' at large, then you've misjudged me.

    I expected better than for you to be judgemental, glen. but see.. what right do I have to expect a damn thing from you? so I'm still part of the problem.
     
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    Oswald killed Kennedy alone (but he was a trained CIA MK Ultra operative). The NASA moon landings were staged and directed by Stanley Kubrick. The Earth is flat and surrounded by an ice wall like the Game Of Thrones!
     
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    You wanna fight about it?! I'll leave YOU blue and purple!
     
  15. FrostyDog

    FrostyDog Official Ol' Geezer

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    Well.....just look at the guy! Wouldn't anyone want to wear that? Stylin!!!
     
  16. GLENGLEN

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    Born25.......I Have No Idea What Has Tipped You "Over The Edge".......But I Doubt Very Much It Is Something

    Anybody Has Said On Here.......Your Posts Were Spot On.......Till.......Something.......Or Somebody

    Threw A Spanner Into The Gears..??????.....I Cannot Give An Answer To That......But Perhaps Given

    Time You Can.......I Most Sincerely Wish You Well......:confused2:



    Cheers Glen.
     
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  17. Asmodean

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    Anything carefully constructed and sincere that is not simply and only ment to offend can go.
    You are able to post it just fine. Fuck it if it upsets others, even if its the majority or 'the regulars'... Really no reason to not post it at all imo.


    Doesn't matter to most here (or it shouldn't). Just get on with the thread or GMO convo even. Stop hanging in this silly conflict.
    Why is that the big question. You know if people say something that may be unpopular there's always another to judge, certain in public like on a forum. I don't see the big deal of sharing unpopular opinions. Also not if they pertain to the forums or the regulars or an 'in crowd'.. Why is it a concern that other people disagree with it or might even get judgemental about it (hey, stating a critical comment on the general state of hipforums and its users can easily be perceived as doing the same. And i read much judgement.. and i find most of it a bunch of drivel. You can take this right? ;) :) ). Really, bite your tongue less. Spill the beans. You can live with people judging you on an internet forum. And if not, well.. i would look at myself and/or my own posts then
     
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    fwiw, glen - I don't hate anyone here. but this place has just started reminding me of everything that's wrong with the world 'out there' too. But this is basically the culmination of about 8 years of bs and frustration, and getting sick of my life being what it is, and feeling like no matter what I do, there's no changing it. I'm angry, and bitter, and lonely, and tired of it all. and no matter where I go, and what I do, it's just the same bs over and over.

    I appreciate the well-wishes, and I wish you the same.
     
  19. Born25YearsTooLate

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    and as I was writing it, I was keenly aware of the irony about how judgemental it would sound. I might not always agree with you, and often wonder what kind of rope you're smoking, but I do find myself respecting you.

    I've got some life shit I think I need to hammer out. That this crap got to me at all is proof of that.
     
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    I hate when people take a disagreement and try to twist it into something else. Just because people disagree with you doesnt mean you arent allowed to state your opinion, thats so silly. Even if everyone disagrees with you, even if you are the only person to hold that particular opinion. Who cares, be proud of your thoughts and opinions

    You are allowed to state your opinion and people are allowed to disagree
    Who cares if people disagree
    If you're going to have an opinion about something you shouldnt be afraid to stand by it and to face disagreement
     
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