Would you unfriend or blacklist someone over politics?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by 6-eyed shaman, Oct 9, 2018.

  1. snowtiggernd

    snowtiggernd Member

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    Yes. Because if what they're doing is stabbing you in the back hurting other friends of yours or yourself then they're not really your friends. The shit that is going on right now is just unacceptable.
     
  2. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    From the dictionary:

    Racism: (rāˈsĭzˌəm)
    • n.
      The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
    • n.
      Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
    So I have no idea what you're talking about in that I'm reversing the definition and handing it back over to you. What proof do you have that I've come out in favor of racism? Again, I will say that racism is not a one-way street, and it could be practiced by any person regardless of their race.

    Also, could you explain what you mean by "white-guy defense mode?" Or is this some internsectionality nonsense?
     
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  3. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    "if any of my Facebook friends don't agree with me please unfriend me now"

    Lol.
     
  4. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    I'll admit it's not my best joke, but seeing how feminism is on the front lines on waging war against the beauty industry (ex: removing bikini models from ads, and removing the swimsuit competition from Miss America). And seeing how a historic civil rights movement has devolved into a bunch of angry (ugly) women (and submissive men) griping about gender roles and societal beauty standards, it has turned into a safe haven for ugly people to feel welcome. So I made fun of the looks of typical fringe feminists.

    And apparently you took this joke to heart because you are easily offended. When someone is easily offended, they are easily manipulated.

    Depends on the joke. Was it a joke based on a silly stereotype, or was it a joke that was actually hateful in nature?



    So why are you insinuating I would ever laugh at a bestiality joke against black women?


    That's just like saying that if a racist you know likes styling his hair into an undercut, then it's safe to conclude that undercuts are racist.
     
  5. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    I can see that.

    Just look at how Democrats run social media and Google.
     
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  6. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    And that's the crux of the matter. Your joke in question seems actually hateful, and in the context of your other posts, seems part of a systematic effort to demean women you find threatening.

    Overgeneralizing about the "typical" looks of "fringe feminists"--and so superficial, all focused on outward appearance and arrogating for yourself the right to judge that. How Trumpian! Stormy Daniels? "Horseface". Megyn Kelley? "Bimbo". Carly Fiorina? "Look at that face. Would anybody vote for that?" Others he called "fat pigs" "dogs", "slobs", and "disgusting animals.” But ugliness on the inside is the worst kind.
     
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  7. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    The thing is this sounds very similar to rants you have given against Islam and Black Lives Matter.

    Things along the same lines as -

    BLM racists are on the front lines on waging war against white people

    See how a historic civil rights movement has devolved into a bunch of angry BLM activists griping about affirmative action and supposed white privilege.

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    It comes across as the anguished cry of the conservative white man – things have gone too far

    Feminism – has gone too far

    Tolerance of others religion and culture - has gone too far

    BLM - has gone too far

    Political Correctness - has gone too far

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    It is the common complaint (often born out of worry or fear) of those that are unsure of their role in a changing society.

    They feel threatened, and in the case of feminism they feel if they don’t ‘stand up’ to it then they will become ‘submissive men’ - soy boys ‘completely and utterly lacking in all necessary masculine qualities’.

    And hence comments and views that are meant to assert the role they wish to have (and hide the fear) along with ‘jokes’ like -

    ‘I'd never fuck a feminist. Bestiality is illegal where I'm from’
     
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  8. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    And AGAIN I’m not saying you are a racist I’m saying you seem to have a mentality and attitudes that are similar to those of racists that same irrational and unreasonable view towards those you don’t like…As I’ve said you mental architecture is so similar to some racists I’ve met because they have said very similar things to me. That they don’t care about others only about their people.

    6

    Again your thinking is lacking in depth, literally, to you it’s all about outward appearance and the superficial, in this case you acquit ingrained emotional feelings and mental attitudes to a haircut.

    Hateful jokes

    To repeat dislike of something (other races, religions, sexuality etc) is often born out of fear and so bigots often make up hateful jokes to try and demean the thing that frightens them to try and make it less threatening.

    Now just as a racist might say a ‘joke’ like

    ‘I'd never fuck a black woman. Bestiality is illegal where I'm from’

    You have used the ‘joke’

    ‘I'd never fuck a feminist. Bestiality is illegal where I'm from’

    I’m not saying you are a racist, but I am saying you seem to have the same kind of reasoning and mentality
     
  9. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    i dont think racist jokes are made from fear, most of them are just stereotyped based on loose perceptions from pop culture, not fear related lol.
     
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  10. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Sorry can you explain this please?
     
  11. guerillabedlam

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    From a readability standpoint, attempting to dissect jokes and cast any aspersions about the person making the joke is a quick way to Nullify any good arguments that might have been made.
     
  12. Irminsul

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    Well I can prove my point with a joke, but I don't want to risk a ban :p

    but basically, i find most racial jokes just pick at the underling perception of culture based on social stereotypes.

    Like Asian jokes about how they can't drive.

    Nobody feared Asians to make Asians can't drive jokes, it's a stereotype that they cannot drive. It's not actually true or created from fear. IMO. It's just that you happen to see a lot of funny Asian driving videos so the perception is, they can't drive.
     
  13. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    I’ve not seen any Asian driving videos maybe I haven’t been looking for any.

    Yes a lot of bigoted jokes are based in the biased perception of the bigot

    So a lot of bigoted jokes are about demeaning the butt of the joke, black people are dumb, feminist are ugly, Asians are too stupid to be able to drive properly.

    But probe deeper and many of these jokers are worried or fearful of those that they are making fun of - so for example they fear that actually black people are just as intelligent as them and if given a chance will take away their jobs.
     
  14. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Okay then.
     
  15. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I honestly find it hard to believe that you "have no idea" what I'm talking about, but I'm not joking so I'll play along.

    You said
    I feel like you took the words of a definition, denied them, and used that as an answer of sorts.

    "White-guy defense mode" isn't a sociological term. I apologize. that phrase comes across very differently than I intended it to.
     
  16. Meliai

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    Everyone knows Asians have superior intelligence and ingenuity though ;)
     
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  17. Meliai

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    And they make excellent cars for the better drivers of the world to drive
     
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  18. Driftrue

    Driftrue Banned

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    When we were in NZ there was a story in the paper about an Asian fusion restaurant that was causing controversy by having a menu that made fun of the accent. Such as "dumprings". My partner found it funny and I did not. He's not "scared" of Asians.. But yeah I think there is an element of fearing everyone different.. And laughing at fear is one way of not fearing anymore. Laugh at your fears, make them smaller.

    I don't find mocking a whole countries accent harmless. It's a bit dehumanising, somehow. We don't need to be scared of them, we don't need to make them smaller.

    Anyway I didn't unfriend my partner but I told him he's an idiot.
     
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  19. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Asians are too stupid to be able to drive properly.

    Yes and in the 1930’s Jews were ridiculed as comical cowards and at the same time feared as the hidden rulers of the world.
     
  20. Aerianne

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    There are a couple of guys on HFs that do that to the women here but I've never though that 6 was one of them.
     

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