Another mass shooting

US has its issues but it’s not a horrible country. No one is forcing anyone to move here lol

And until you’ve lived in a country for at least one year, it’s hard to really comment with certainty that you know anything about it. I can read about the country of which you reside but that doesn’t tell me much. It’s just funny to me how people who don’t live in the US and have never spent much time here seem to know more than those who do.

 

Maybe if mental health availability was greatly expanded nationwide and if education was readily available as Sanders has proposed, serious change would come. The quest for riches takes precedence over doing the logical instead of the same old thing. Remember the definition of insanity of doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

 

A politician is a politician is a politician but it's a little extra sheepish to conceive any one as extra boogiemanish. All of this violence and hysteria goes way above the current puppet in office.

 

Yes, but our glorious leader seems to love exacerbating the turmoil. He is certainly not a peacemaker.

 

I think the state police in each state should go to each home/building/pole barn and search for guns. If the homeowner has a business building, say a repair garage or gas station, then search that too. We need to control this problem; and this problem is complicated with hate which originates from the neo Nazi white nationalist facet of society. We just had innocent people gunned down in a place of worship! What else does it take for the gun nuts?

 

Don't get your feathers all ruffled up. This is only long enough until he gets to his new residence...after court.

 

There is plenty of mental health help. It just hasn't helped the Republicans to think properly!

 

I didn't say or even implied it was horrible. I don't get the forced comment either in relation to my post.

In fact, i was nuancing what you said about the US in relation to Australia. And gave the exact reason why a lot of immigrating people still go for the US instead of a country like Australia or other western countries. Which also get plenty of fortune seekers, and are in a lot of places at least as safe as the US.

 

Okay.

 

To clarify:

In comparison to Australia i ment btw. Not those fortune seekers homeland. That its worse there is of course the general reason. But about this I would also state: they don't come to the US because its so great there, but primarily because its so bad where they come from. Most wouldn't leave their homeland if circumstances wouldn't suck so bad. The US is then after deciding its better to leave a much chosen option because it has been propagated for a long time as THE land of the free (which it isn't) and spectacular opportunities (which also lie in plenty of other countries. US just got the name).

 

How do you define “free?” You say it’s not the land of the free.

 

It's not THE land of the free. There are many countries where people are/can be just as free. In some aspects more free and in others less perhaps (gun ownership comes to mind). Your country attracts more fortune seekers because this idea that its THE land of the free and the land of endless possibilities (probably stems from the 19th century) has been very persistently and consequently spread around the world.
It's definitely not the most free country, or the safest, nor is it the easiest place for a hardworking person to make it anymore. I'm not shitting on your country here (as you seemed to perceive it at first instance).

 

We'll talk about your characterization of people who have a gun for home protection as gun nuts later.

But first, you didn't address my post at all.

I'll repeat it:

And once again, you are not paying attention to what I'm saying. I'll try to make it even clearer to you. You propose to have the government go into peoples' homes and order them to hand over their guns. Presumably, the government agency responsible for this confiscation of property will be using gun registration records so that no one with a gun can deny owning one. However, you seem genuinely ignorant of the fact that hundreds of thousands of guns are stolen every year. And that's where your philosophy runs into the light of day and is exposed as half-baked reasoning. Perhaps you're okay with me defending against a home invader with a knife or my knuckles, but I'm not okay with that.

So, no I am not wrong. I don't speak for the NRA, and they don't speak for me. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that, in your world, when someone wants to rob me, they won't have to worry about me being armed. You were just hoping that, since an organization that you don't like has made the same point that I have, you could prove me wrong via a guilt-by-association reasoning. But as you can see, my point about stolen guns is valid, and your only argument against that point is to claim that someone you don't like has made the same point.

And of course, this is to say nothing of the fact that when the criminal element decides to use knives in home robberies, you'll no doubt be leading the march to convince the government to ban knives.
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Start with why you believe I'll be better off defending against a home invader with a knife or my knuckles.

 

Think whatever you like about the US. You know nothing, Jon Snow.

 

I stated facts.

 

Is it too late to load up on Alcoa stocks?

 

This is not about you defending your home with guns or knives. This is about public safety. The voters have a right to decide this issue. I say we need to control guns because of a persistent danger from the Neo-Nazi White Nationalists who worship Trump and Bannon and Richard Spencer and the other minor Nazis.

 

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I think the best you can (and should) wish and strive for is sensible gun control. Limited to people of which there are indications they're not trusted with any. Not ban all guns for all citizens.

 

This is the internet; you don't have to know what you're talking about to be an expert.

 

If I haven’t told you I love you today, I do. lol