happy Eoster Not Easter

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  1. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Most Christians are fake Christians because if they ever truly followed the teachings in the Bible they would immediately be deemed a cult, corporal punishment would be the norm,
    young girls would be regularly molested and sexually violated. and wealth and possessions would be meaningless
     
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  2. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Can't we all just celebrate the day Jesus became a zombie in peace? Even pagans respect the dead.
     
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  3. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    You can literally even buy Tacticus books on the Germanian people in paperback. I know what you did, you picked up on a couple of non accurate details on a webpage that took 3mins to read and you've run with it without even really knowing what you're talking about or heeding to the information in posts clearly outlined before.

    I can even guess work which sites you briefly skimmed by searching for it myself, yet I find it mind baffling that you seemingly disconcern and look over the Webpages and resources that are right there for you to learn.

    And then belligerently and arrogantly try to make claims that only the Greeks would have ever symbolised a rabbit in Europe lol. What an absolute joke.

    Stick to the political forums, mate, you're dribbling shit here. :sweatsmile:
     
  4. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    One must also take into the consideration of joining dots of other very similar Germanic deities and goddesses and look to the Goddess Nerthus, who was also written about in the Germanians of Tacticus in the 1st century. Germanic deities have always been cryptic in the way they go by several different names, which is no different to a lot of central Europeans folklore.

    In any case, thanks to 1st century text which voids and nullifies anything about the 1500s, we can be rest assured, that at some point in pre history German lands, Nerthus and Ostara were worshipped either as the same goddess or as two separate entities. :)


    *waits for the Tacticus doesn't know what he was talking about response*
     
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  5. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    I know I can read Tacitus. Have you. If so, you should be able to provide a specific citation for what he says about Osatara.
     
  6. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    What still boggles my mind is that, the whole scripture is still just works of previous and older scriptures. Take almost any story in the bible and trace it back, I bet you'll find it, yet everyone covers their eyes and ears to that possibility which is in fact a reality.
     
  7. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I'm not gonna do the homework for you bro. You read your 3min articles, it doesn't bother me what you believe, but you're not right. You still arent taking into consideration of older origins and who is represented as who as belief structures evolve and change as culture and population rise in Europe. Like I said before, maybe she must wasn't called that, but then she's referred to as such by Tacticus.
     
  8. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I would actually consider buying the Tacticus book, but I will buy it in Deutsch. My parents had a version. I first learned of Ostara as a kid in folktale and mythology books. :)
     
  9. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Ordinarily he who asserts must prove. I'm not going to waste my time on it either. You're obviously just blowin' smoke. What was she called? Brunhilde?
     
  10. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I have proved. You stated like 2 names and I found those articles with the same information. There was also a plethora of other articles you didn't read. So, don't look at me for blowing smoke, your whole chimney is pluming.
     
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  11. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Tacticus also writes that the celebration of Ostara happens on the spring equinox. I guess he made that up too? :sweatsmile:
     
  12. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    I guess. Or somebody did. Where does he mention that? The only German goddesses mentioned by Tacitus that come close are Nerthus (aka , Nerþuz) who was a fertility goddess worshiped by the Suebi tribes and the Venir, and Baduhenna , worsiped in Frisia. But he doesn't connect either of them to Ostara. Is somebody else making that leap?
     
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  13. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Well I did say that the Germanic gods have a history entrenched in shapeshifting and in name changing.

    I will see if this book is available in Deutsch on kindle because I'm intrigued now.

    I'm any case, seeing as Nerthus & Ostara are linked to the same pantheon of the Vanir (yep, I'm using Norse now) ;) I think it's safe to say that, at one point in time, around that Tacticus era, Ostara was very much a true deal for many of my Brethren.
     
  14. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    These Germanic Gods seemed to have remained awfully silent during WWII

    Sure the Nazis tried to invoke their name and power, but met with little success [​IMG]
     
  15. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    One other goddess mentioned briefly by Tacitus in the context of a destruction of her place of worship by the Romans is Tamfana. Apparently she was a mountain goddess.
     
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  16. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Himmler was a big fan of the Saxon and Norse gods, the SS insignia even depicted as the Sowilo runes. His fascination with the mythology took him enroute through Teutonic mythology too, even to the point the SS headquarters was going to be architecturally accurate to Teutonic Knight history. It would have been amazing had they won and built it. :p

    Hitler on the other hand, told Himmler it was a bunch of hokus pokus only good for a stage show at the theatre lol.
     
  17. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I'm sorry if I'm wrong, I just specifically remember it because it's lodged into my memory. Stupid details that lodge into my memory generally come from significant points in my life. I will find the answers!

    Also unless I'm interneting incorrectly, google searching Tacticus+Ostara yields a lot of results?
     
  18. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Not at all. It's the same with stuff like old nobility having an official family tree tracing back to a god. It's not real just because a lot of people talk about it later.
    In the case of Ostara it seems that the first time we know the name got coined was by Bede trying to connect the name of a holiday to a goddess. But it seems more likely it was connected to the east/sunrise in general. There is no trace or sign Ostara was a real name for a goddess before his attempt to place it.

    There is no sign of Ostara being written down before Bede.
    Nobody is arguing the spring equinox or the gods connected to it weren't important.
    It seems arguable though if the god(dess) herself was a center focus point in the celebrations.
    Which texts are you referring to?

    Okie and I are talking about facts. You try to make an assumption a fact.
     
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  19. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Yeah like, we already sorted it 6hrs ago sooo like..
     
  20. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Alright so I've been digging around my book case and I have found the runic evidence to suggest the love heart was the buttox of a woman and not a representative of the heart during the Saxon eras.

    I've looked into my book of Aryan Tribes, which is tribal knowledge from the pre-Saxon to the Teutonic period and which gives detailed lunar cycle systems of the Germanic people. These are the photos of the cycles and the information that this cycle was called and known as Ostara. Is actually a really good, unique book but very hard to come by. It's a weird shape too, it's long as in horizontal. There is information within that I personally disagree, but it is very useful for rites, vowels and ceremonies, giving detailed instructions for rituals. It is very rare and special to me. :)

    I have been looking through my Asatru books but they really only focus on the Norse gods, but really, if you know anything about gods from all cultures you also start to connect dots too. Freyja is probably, at my first guess without research, the Norse equivalent or Ostara, who was probably the earliest equivalent of Nerthus. This is just in my head. :p I still have some books to go through.

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