A cat? Ironically, many on Hip Forums would dispute your characterization of me as "a far right leaning member of this website". I think Neon, on occasion, has called me a defender of the establishment, and I do like the flag and what it used to stand for. I don't see why you are so concerned about my lack of an avatar. How would that help you? Now that you've clarified the scope of the thread, I have nothing further to say here.
I personally do not condone the actions of the far-left, nor do I condone the actions of the far-right and their leader Herr Trump As for the milkshakes thrown by protesters which contained quick-drying cement, well that’s the way they serve them at McDonald’s
The guy in question was a conservative blogger. Now he really has something to write about. ...lol...
O The thing is that everyone knows that there are nutters on any side of things like politics and religion. The trick is to know that and to try and not escalate the division by seemingly want to paint all of one side with the same brush. Not all left wingers are thugs just as not all right wingers are thugs But isn’t that the point – have you given the same amount of attention to those acts? Have you been calling for right wing thugs to be rounded up and locked away as you have here with left wing ones? Have you been promoting the idea that right wing thugs are all around us and a threat to national security in the same way as you have with left wing thugs? Now sorry I may be wrong but have haven’t seen it. I also find it strange that you post something seemingly glorify a right wing thug knocking out a left wing thug. It seem to indicate that you think violence ok as long as the person been hurt is of what you see as the opposition. To me it just seems like glorifying any violence.
I find it alarming that there are extremist groups having "battles" in one of America's cities. Our country is in distress Not sure it matters what side either of them are on, they're extremist groups. Neither represents the average person
Mel I agree thuggish behaviours from any side should not be acceptable and should not be condoned and definitely not be glorified. In my view this is what happens when people stop been able to enter into rational, reasonable and honest debate, when people stubbornly hold onto ideas and viewpoint that they cannot defend from valid criticism in any rational way. When that happens it can be only a short step to acting in irrational and even violent ways.
"PopMob, Rose City Antifa, Democratic Socialists of America, and hundreds of Portlanders came together to oppose the Proud Boys and alt-right provocateurs gathering in Portland. We created a fun, unique opportunity for this vibrant city to show the world – we don’t stand by when hate marches through our streets. It was wildly successful. People danced, laughed, drank delicious vegan milkshakes, and stood in solidarity as a community united against hate. Unfortunately, this was once again overshadowed by the actions of the Portland Police Bureau. PopMob served over 750 milkshakes to demonstrators, using music and whimsy to create an atmosphere of joyful resistance to threats posed by Proud Boys and the alt-right contingent. Everyday antifascists outnumbered them 10:1. Collaboration between groups with overlapping, but distinct, political ideologies who came together to confront a common threat, showed what we can accomplish as a community. However, we have seen the Portland Police Bureau protect and collaborate with these violent right wing agitators many times, so it comes as no surprise that this unity would be a threat to their power, and backlash from the PPB was inevitable." Far-Right Extremists Wanted Blood In Portland's Streets. Once Again, They Got It. | HuffPost Did Protesters Throw 'Concrete Milkshakes'? - Truth or Fiction? How conservative figures turned a flimsy rumor about "concrete milkshakes" in Portland into a meme "Since facing public scrutiny, the Police defended their unsubstantiated tweet saying they had an anonymous email threat. This was later revealed to be yet another manufactured narrative when it became clear the email came after the tweet had been sent. Since we cannot rely on the police to protect the people of Portland, it is up to antifascists to defend ourselves and people at risk of police and right wing extremist violence." - Police Push Misinfo after Portland Shuts Down Proud Boys This literally all started from the white-supremacist Proud Boys spreading rumors to their buddy cops.
Ngo's journalistic credentials have been questioned. Remembering the attempt to infer journalistic protections on to Julian Aussange when he exposed US military secrets in cooperation with Snowden and Manning. Remembering the title journalist being applied to murder victim: Adan Kasaggoi because he was on MSNBC's payroll. Dude spent his whole adult life as a sort of consigliere to the Saudi Royal family. as sort of Michael Cohen in bedouin garb. He betrayed his omerta to the royals then was given a press pass as a sort of protection. It didn't work. Interesting how much weight is given to journalistic credentials depending on ones view of the operation.
"On June 29, 2019, Andy Ngo tried a repeat of his actions on May 1, 2019– to film the actions of armed men on a mission to attack activists, to be used for propaganda purposes. As on May Day, this past weekend he and the far-right mob were stopped, physically. The events of this weekend are what we mean by community defense. The entire community came together, using multiple tactics, and sent a premeditated attack by the far-right packing. On May 1, a party was held at a local bar. A group of far-right brawlers sought out this bar, looking for people to victimize. In the resulting melee, Ian Kramer fractured a person’s vertebrae with a metal baton. Andy Ngo arrived with this far-right group, filmed this assault, profited by it with appearances on national media, doxxed and harassed the victim, and distributed his video as propaganda to support more attacks. He did this in cooperation with David Willis, an anti-semite; Ian Kramer and Eric Oelkers, both fascists; Joey Gibson, leader of Patriot Prayer; and other Proud Boys and far-right brawlers. Andy Ngo was the first to announce the June 29 Proud Boy rally at their behest, serving as their unofficial PR spokesperson. His actions on that day were part of a plan to repeat his performance on May 1. But he and the Oregon Militia men who accompanied him were stopped in their tracks. He will have no video to sell, showing activists being attacked. The propagation of violence, the profiting by fascist mob action, and the instigation of hateful ideologies is not journalism, any more than it is free speech. Ngo himself, along with his far-right publications, have promoted death threats against journalists and academics." - Antifascist Mobilization in Portland
I don't think any group that shows up in huge numbers to oppose and drown out the ability for people to demonstrate their 1st amendment right of free speech can call themselves peaceful or democratic. If you knows that alt right group want incite violence, why show up with weapons to fight them? You're doing exactly what they want! Antifa looks like puppets of the alt right by doing this! I think the alt right is stupid. I think "antifa" is stupid, and honestly, they're kind of fascist themselves! Politicians on both sides love seeing this and now we have idiots running for president that are playing to the favor of these stupid groups of stupid people...
And should be locked away until they get over such foolishness. Really, what was going through the heads of the people adding cement to milkshakes? And what about all the assholes standing around laughing it up with the guy? Watching it escalate, it's easier to understand how REAL Nazis could be conditioned into such depravity. If you enjoy hurting people, you're a psychopath. Nazis promoted psychopaths. So I wonder where this milkshake "chemist" gets his real inspiration from?
There was no cement in milkshakes. Haven't you been paying attention? How would that even make logical sense when a stone is literally free.
I'm not buying it. The "debunking" is way too well covered. If assholes will spray people with piss, why not quickrete? Besides, cement is not the only thing that will rapidly solidify liquids. As for stones, sure, that makes sense. Unless, of course, you don't want your shakes to appear as an obvious weapon (like frozen water bottles or soda cans). Regardless of the details we have a lot of dirty "tricks" happening that shouldn't be. By the way, the personal shit, "Haven't you been paying attention", is something you do to inflate your ego. It doesn't actually help your claim at all. It just repels people. Why so bitter?
Go ask one of the hundreds of pacifist non-combatants there, who were drinking milkshakes being given out for free by PopMob, and they'll tell you. And the fash are armed most of the time nowadays. So visible weapons are not a concern to most people. This is quite thoroughly proven to be a conspiracy made by the Proud Boys and their filmaker Andy Ngo themselves. And yeah, I was annoyed at the time for having to repeat things. You're right, its poor etiquette.