They ARE concentration camps

Discussion in 'Politics' started by unfocusedanakin, Jul 13, 2019.

  1. Lynnbrown

    Lynnbrown Firecracker

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    From the internet:

    3.7 percent

    US Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Rises to 3.7% The US unemployment rate rose to 3.7 percent in June 2019 from a 49-year low of 3.6 percent in the previous month and above market expectations of 3.6 percent.
     
  2. Henderson

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    From the internet:
    • The broader definition of unemployment — U6 — fell to 7.3 percent in February.
    • The U-6 rate is a more encompassing unemployment rate that counts discouraged workers as well as those holding jobs part time for economic reasons.
    Here's what the 'real' unemployment rate is
     
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  3. Irminsul

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    They don't like this
    They don't like that
    They're never satisfied and that's a fact
    The more we give
    The more they take
    The more we fix
    The more they break
    Your countries in an awful mess
    With a whole lotta civil unrest
    Well I got one thing to suggest...
    We help em pack, and be kind
    Make sure we don't leave an illegal immigrant behind!
    And send em all back to Mesopotamia
    Send em all back to Mesopotamia
    We oughtta send em all back to Mesopotamia where they beloooong.
     
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  4. Lynnbrown

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    I read that, and fail to see how "discouraged" workers could or can be included in anything. Who determines them "discouraged"? Is there a different meaning for "discouraged workers"
    than what "discouraged" means in every other way in the English language?

    Also...if you aren't going to go with what is considered the "official unemployment rate" (U3)...lets just include the whole definition, which is what you are going with. Personally I find it strange that you can't just go with what is considered the "official unemployment rate"; but, you must keep on until you find a higher number (but that's just me wondering).

    U6 Unemployment Rate. ... U3 is the official unemployment rate. U5 includes discouraged workers and all other marginally attached workers. U6 adds on those workers who are part-time purely for economic reasons. The current U6 unemployment rate as of June 2019 is 7.20.
     
  5. Henderson

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    In economics, a discouraged worker is a person of legal employment age who is not actively seeking employment or who has not found employment after long-term unemployment, but who would prefer to be working. This is usually because an individual has given up looking, hence the term "discouraged". A discouraged worker, since not actively seeking employment, has fallen out of the core statistics of the unemployment rate since he is neither working nor job-seeking. Their giving up on job-seeking.

    Let’s take this one step at a time, and we are going to use the Federal Reserve’s own numbers.

    According to the Fed, there were 6,065,000 working age Americans unemployed in May (2018).

    That would be an excellent number if it was an honest number. But of course that number does not tell the whole story.

    We also have to factor in the other category of working age Americans that are not currently employed. They are not considered to be “officially unemployed” because they are considered to be “not in the labor force”.

    According to the Federal Reserve, 95,915,000 working age Americans were “not in the labor force” in May.
     
  6. Meliai

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    No it doesnt. Certain jobs in the manufacturing sector have moved overseas; there seems to be a sentiment that immigrants are coming for and stealing those jobs but they arent. The jobs simply dont exist anymore in the US
    But plenty of other jobs do exist, for immigrants and citizens alike. The economy is currently expanding and unemployment is low right now, clearly the influx of both legal and illegal immigrants haven't slowed down the economy.
     
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  8. Henderson

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    See above . . .
     
  9. Has anyone, like, actually noticed any negative consequences of illegal immigration? My life seems exactly the same as it always has.
     
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  10. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Ok, but how do you force them to live in small western or mid western towns?

    They are still small towns for a reason... because no one else wants to live there
     
  11. Henderson

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  12. Just goes to show you don't know what you're talking about. Small midwestern towns get plenty of Mexican immigrants. It drives the racists crazy.
     
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  13. We have a whole community here in Doopity Doo, Iowa. They work in the factories and live in the trailer courts.
     
  14. Sorry, Doopity Do Doo.
     
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  16. Henderson

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    FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants

    FROM NS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants (Q1 2006)
    Check this Site for More Stats

    SOCIAL SERVICES
    43% of all Food Stamps issued are to illegal aliens
    41% of all Unemployment Checks in the United States are to illegal aliens
    58% of all Welfare payments in the United States are issued to illegal aliens
    Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking crops but 41 % are on welfare

    CRIME
    95% of Warrants in LOS ANGELES are for illegal aliens.
    83% of Warrants for MURDER in Phoenix Arizona are FOR illegal aliens.
    86% of Warrants for MURDER in Albuquerque New Mexico are for illegal aliens.
    75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix, Albuquerque are illegal aliens.
    24.9% OF ALL INMATES in California detention centers are Mexican Nationals here ILLEGALLY.
    40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican Nationals here ILLEGALLY.
    29% (630,000) Convicted illegal aliens felons fill our state and federal prisons at the cost of $1.5 billion annually.
    53% Plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.
    50% Plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
    71% Plus of all apprehended Cars stolen in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, and California were stolen by illegal aliens or "Transport Coyotes". 47% of cited / stopped Drivers in California have NO License, NO Insurance, and NO Registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, over 92% were illegal aliens.
    63% of cited / stopped Drivers in Arizona have NO License, NO Insurance, and NO Registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, over 97% are illegal aliens.
    66% of cited / stopped Drivers in New Mexico have NO License, NO Insurance, and NO Registration for the vehicle. Of that 66%, over 98% were illegal aliens.

    BIRTHS

    380,000 Plus "ANCHOR BABIES" were born in the U.S. in 2005 to illegal alien parents, making 380,000 babies automatically U.S. citizens 97.2% of all costs incurred from those births were paid for by American taxpayers.
    66% of all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid by taxpayers

    HOUSING

    300,000 plus illegal aliens in Los Angeles Country are living in garages
    Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties in the United States are illegal aliens.

    TV & RADIO STATIONS

    16 out of 28 TV stations in Phoenix are Spanish only
    15 out of 24 TV stations in Albuquerque are Spanish only
    17 radio stations in Los Angeles are Spanish only
    17 radio stations in Albuquerque are Spanish only

    SCHOOLS

    34% plus of Arizona students in grades 1-12 are illegal aliens and 24%+ are non-English speaking
    39% plus of California students in grades 1-12 are illegal aliens and 42%+ are non-English speaking
    In Los Angeles County, 5.1 million people speak English - 3.9 million speak Spanish

    SOCIAL SERVICES
    43% of all Food Stamps issued are to illegal aliens
    41% of all Unemployment Checks in the United States are to illegal aliens
    58% of all Welfare payments in the United States are issued to illegal aliens
    Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking crops but 41% are on welfare

    POPULATION

    Over 70% of the U.S. annual population growth (and over 90% of CA, FL, and NY) results from illegal immigration.

    EMPLOYER PROFITS

    The estimated profit to U.S. corporations and businesses employing illegal aliens in 2005 was more than 2.36 trillion.

    TAXES

    62% of all illegal aliens in the U.S. are working for cash and not paying taxes; predominantly illegal aliens are working without a green card The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 (last known calculation by Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University) was NET $70 Billion per year.

    The fiscal cost of the average illegal alien is $55,000 in a 5-year span. You personally pay $11,000 every year to illegal aliens.

    JOBS (Center for Immigration Studies - September 2006): Between 2000 and 2005,

    4.1 million immigrant workers arrived in the U.S., accounting for 86% of the net increase in the total number of employed persons (16 and older), the highest share ever recorded in the U.S. Of the 4.1 million, between 1.4 and 2.7 million are estimated to be illegal aliens. Also, between 2000 and 2005, the number of young (16 to 34) native-born men employed declined by 1.7 million - at the same time, the number of new male immigrant workers increased by 1.9 million. [Do you still believe the gov't employment rate stats?]

    From the L. A. Times
    1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people)are working for cash and not paying taxes.
    This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
    2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
    3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
    4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
    5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
    6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
    7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
    8 Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
    9. 21 radio stations in L. A. Are Spanish speaking.
    10. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.
    (There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County . )

    (All 10 of the above are from the Los Angeles Times)

    Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth
    (over 90% of California, Florida, and New York ) results from immigration. 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

    Of course, that was in 2006.
     
  17. Henderson

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    I thought I just said that to someone else.
     
  18. No, I mean, have you personally noticed anything? Not statistics you're reading. From 2006 no less.
     
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    Some of the most in demand fields right now with more job openings than applicants looking for work are in low skilled, blue collar industries.
    If immigrants are taking jobs away from American citizens as you seem to be suggesting, then why arent American citizens filling these jobs?
     
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  20. Vanilla Gorilla

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    What I love about Australia is 2 days later they will forget what the protest march was about, next month its on to saving the turtles, the month after that aboriginal rights and they have to bus some aboriginals in from 100km away, kangaroo culling the month after that

    Then by the time its 6 months and we are back to immigration, we have already changed Prime Ministers again anyway ;)
     

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