Trump is not racist: Change my mind

He was born in America. He does not represent a post civil rights view of America.

You are right there are differing views. His saying that racism does not exist and mine favoring racial harmony. This is why people argue over what is racist. They want to return to the 1950's when race was not discussed. White men were just in charge.

We have a high bar for what racism is. The right wing admits it's bad but does not admit that it happens. This is the world he lives in and the world others flock to since it "owns libs" AKA the people they have hated since the 1960's when they said then racism exists. The people who told them gay is OK too. Overall just an attack on white straight men who are Trump's largest voter segment.

 

No, its because we get passive aggressive posts like this; you are "just an empathic person". Telling me I can choose love....just in a political thread...as if somehow I am incapable of love..because I dont agree Trump himself is racist???

So you say you can love too, choose to....but then a couple pages later we get posts like this again. Where you do the exact same thing you are accusing us of

 

Oh he got sued for "racism" now did he, in 1973.

Well, by all means, please elaborate

 

You're all just reading too much into things. Snowflakes for sure.

 

Maybe you should have put it like this at first. Saying simply he's not an American is a recipe for pointless nitpicking (which im happy to engage in because: ...). It's factually wrong and just indicates you don't acknowledge this kind of Americans and how they think. Same with intolerant americans that have a problem with 'leftists'. So you have that in common with eachother.

 

Love does not mean not calling out what is wrong. I don't hate you or any Trump voter I hate your wrong ideas.

As Christians say you love the sinner and hate the sin.

 

Snowflakes are people that whine about feminism in general being a threat to society and the loss of the superior position of the 'white protestant male' in western countries

 

You guys all need to stop the nitpicking, seriously. It's tiresome.

 

This is love as well.

Read your bible Evangelical Trump voters.

 

Okay? Have you met wooleeheron?

 

The terms of an argument need to be defined at the beginning of the discussion If everybody did this convos would be better.

 

Here you go VG

1973 | Meet Donald Trump

“Mr. Trump accused the Justice Department of singling out his corporation because it was a large one, and because the government was trying to force it to rent to welfare recipients,” The Times reported.


Under an agreement reached in June 1975, Trump Management was required to furnish the New York Urban League with a list of all apartment vacancies, every week, for two years. It was also to allow the league to present qualified applicants for every fifth vacancy in Trump buildings where fewer than 10 percent of the tenants were black.


Trump Management noted that the agreement did not constitute an admission of guilt.

 

Ugh, so he didnt want to rent to people on welfare, like every landlord ever

At the time there were too many black people on welfare, somehow thats Trumps fault not Americas fault

Suit never went anywhere, he counter sued and of course he was never sued for "racism"

Its 2019, all across my city, chinese owners will only rent to chinese applicants, and there is not much we can do about it, this happens all the time, the world over.

Its cos they were poor, not because they were black, not Trumps fault 108 years after the civil war there were still too many black people that were poor in America

 

What makes you state that with absolute certainty?

 

[The whole case was based on the fact that black people seeking apartments were lied to and told there were no apartments available then available apartments were instead leased to white people.
A doorman testified he was instructed to tell black apartment seekers there was no availability (or maybe testify is the wrong word, but he told the FBI this during their invsstigation).
It has nothing to do with income or welfare. Black people were turned away before they applied, meaning there was no way of knowing if they met the income requirement or not. It was just assumed they didnt meet the requirement because they were black. That's literally the definition of housing discrimination.

 

One of the ways landlords legally filter tenants around Atlanta is to require a credit check and demand a security deposit as well as first and last months' rent up front. Personally, I see that as a class issue as opposed to racial. But they are within their rights as property owners.

I have a rental house down the road where the owner will rent to anyone with a pulse. The last such tenant set the place up as some kind of alms house and invited several homeless folks to move in (3 of them in a backyard shed). It was gradual at first, then it was a flood. I had no idea how many "homeless" folks own cars. I also didn't realize how many were dope dealers.

But then they crossed the line and started stealing stuff from people all over the neighborhood. We didn't bother the renters, we took the landlord to court. We're not in an HOA kind of neighborhood, but many of us have been here more than a decade and prefer a quiet, drama-free existence.

One thing that I think is amusing is how far people are willing to go back into Trump's history, but if it's a matter of just about any democrat's past, whomever brings it up is "living in the past". If not for double standards............

 

Maybe because discriminating against the poor is far more common than racial discrimination. It's an easy wager.

 

Please refer to my above post
It wasnt because they were poor

It is not illegal to have income requirements for a rental
It is illegal to not allow people of a certain race to apply
And it is illegal to turn away a high number of qualified applicants belonging to a certain race.

 

He didnt want to rent to people on welfare that couldnt afford the rent, but its not because they were poor?