Climate Change is Accelerating

The comments from his supporters are the worst part

 

Yeah that was what got me.
Sometimes just the sense of how many people there are, and how many conflicting views, and how many of them are cold or unkind to someone else; it's overwhelming in a bad way. I could not spend time on that website.

 

Right on about the relative importance of the effects of the ever-changing climate. It's shortsighted and hypocritical. I don't agree with the majority of mammals likely to disappear. In North America we have more deer, bears, coyote, wolves, mountain lion, bison (and others) than we've had for a century or so. We have massive tracts of land dedicated to their proliferation. Humans are not prohibited but due to the efforts required to penetrate, few venture. And those few are causing no harm. We also have a massive quantity and variety of birds. There is no way we have fewer now than fifty years ago. Maybe for people whose lives are contained in cities it may seem like there's little wildlife. But for us who live out in farmland, we experience wildlife daily. It's definitely not diminishing here, I can assure you first-hand.

 

Not only that, but it's also "crystal clear" that the apocalypse ending is a hoax perpetrated upon the innocent.

 

Yeah there are loads of birds and wildlife around me too, where I am in the country, but that doesn't mean I deny what is happening globally.

 

I only don't like the loud early birds.
Theres one that sounds like my oven timer.

 

Yeah, but does he give a ship? He's somebody in this world, she's nobody. I give her kudos for not fearing to get up and speak in front of the world but she's still a kid speaking pure emotion while uneducated about the fear she's spreading.

 

Yeah! There's one at my parents that does the first ring of the phone. I am convinced they learn it. It probably learned that from your oven.

 

You've already made yourself sound so uneducated that I wouldn't even bother to debate your points.

 

There's nothing to debate there.

 

All your posts. About everything.

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Not really, I think you say interesting stuff at times.

But that nonsense up there about the wildlife. Like it's just people in cities freaking out and everyone in the country knows all the animals and birds are fine. You sound ridiculous. Stating what you see out your window as if it's more credible than worldwide studies and patterns.

 

I happen to live in a wilderness area... The normal cycles of the wildlife that live here, animal and plant life both, are all screwed up. It's like nothing knows what's coming next...

 

The orthodoxy according to... who? Therein lies the question. You've got people banding together preaching certain doom event by event, people banding together pointing out all the flaws in the first group's claims, and the rest of us on the sidelines looking at all these scientific reasonings why they're both right and wondering what the real story will be.

As of yet, nobody can prove any imminent demise. Or lack thereof. Taking a side of akin to adopting a religion. You have to take on faith that the side you're believing in is the one who got it right.

Scott started with the stance that he didn't know which side was right. He acknowledged he was a regular guy seeking the truth. He delved into what each side had to say and found both to be persuasive. He also found a bunch of bogus claims on both sides. He hadn't updated his inquiry results recently but was left squarely on the fence. I found his approach insightful, perhaps you might as well. I'll try to find one from the past you can check out and take it from there.

 

You must be standing with your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears.

What do you think is the motivation behind this "lie" of climate change? I can see how making people think like you is beneficial to the status quo, lots of people making lots of money, don't want anything to change. What motivates David Attenborough to tell me such lies?

 

Why, I don't get it?

 

Thanks, you say interesting stuff too. I'm sure we both show our ignorance at times, that's only natural. Like you saying here that my observations are from looking out the window. That's a city dwellers approach. You have no clue how much I'm outside with nature but you're willing to assume! I'm outdoors now as I post. I've already peed outside three times since I first came out this morning. We each do and see things which the other doesn't. We have to take things in context if we care to have a meaningful comprehension.

It's interesting that when I say "I can't speak for the rest of the world, but here..." you view that as purporting to be credible about the world - do wha???

 

Yeah. I dont see bees as much anymore. I hardly ever see big migrations of birds like I used to. Weather patterns have been really weird here the last few years...I've noticed lots of things that are easy to see if you're in tune with nature and paying attention

That's not to say that the decline in bee and bird populations are due to climate change, it could be caused by something else - pesticides, maybe. Loss of habitat. Etc. But it points to humans as the primary cause, no matter how you look at it.

 

Did you view the video, nine posts ago?

 

You're missing the point. We know we are entering into a mass extinction because of data carefully gathered by scientists all over the world. It isnt about what one person can see from their little slice of the earth, it is about finding patterns through multiple observations in multiple locations