The Donald Trump Score Card

Stormountains original quote

Apparently only Republican Presidents pressed for trade with China and killed unionism

Clinton and Obama must have used magic unicorns and elves to revert it all back again.

Its not about Trump is it, its that he is Republican, wouldnt matter who the president was if he was Republican to you lot

 

Somebody has murdered The Leader Of The Free World . oops

 

of the republican presidents of the last fifty years, Nixon was probably the best. . . . .gulp

 

You accuse me of deflection

Clinton and Obama pro trade with China or what?

 

The Democrat President before him started the Vietnam war. The Democrat President after him bombed the crap out of Nth Vietnam

 

Reagan's merits were not the issue. But since you bring it up, yes, Reagan did deliver the death blow to unionism, and with it the middle class. All the kings horses and all the kings men, and Clinton, and Obama couldn't put it back together again.
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As for China, one more time: that issue was brought up by your fellow notmyrealname, who was claiming that Obama "sold America's soul to China". Stormountain man pointed out that Nixon opened the door to China and that Reagan continued the policy. I happen to think it was a good thing; that and Nixon's sponsoring of environmental protection that Trump has so assiduously been tearing down. But remember, it was Reagan who introduced the "borrow and spend" version of Republicanism that led to our becoming so heavily in debt to China. |

Continuing to misunderstand the point and harping on it must be construed as deflection--from the serious problems raised by the Trump Presidency. You illustrate two logical fallacies: tu quoque, othewise known as "whataboutism"(but Clinton, but Obama) and red herrring (using a side topic in an irrelevant manner, i.e., deflection).

 

The Democratic president after Nixon/Ford was Carter. The war was already over. Carter did not bomb the hell out of North Vietnam.

 

so do you think that Biden or Warren could be walking into war time if they're elected?

 

Reagan championed the redistribution of wealth...to the rich. Because of the myth(lie) that he was as altruistic as Mother Teresa this nation has been unable and unwilling to reverse this trend. Even Obama revered to him in glowing terms.

 

I agree, I think opening the door to China was a good thing. If for no other reason, it may have prevented another war in Asia. Nixon also opened the door to the Soviet Union. Nixon wasn't a great environmentalist, but he was able to get some important things passed.
Nixon's downfall was his ego, and his alcoholism.

 

So is trump. Where else will he get his hats made? Where will Ivanka get her clothing line made?

 

Ahh baby boomers. Sure you and our little Brexit friend arent cousins? So Reagan killed Americas middle class.....not the 1/2 billion chinese happy to work in factories for $5 a day

In real life, do you ever try to explain that to like anyone under 50 and they just look at you like its time for a full time nurse

 

I'm going to take the 'so is' as a yes

So on that point. What are you actually arguing about?

 

Another one pops out of the woodwork

Anyone else here besides me not old enough to remember when McHales Navy first aired?

 

Except Kennedy started it

Ho chi minh wrote him twice, he ignored it. Then Kennedy backed the wrong guy in the south

 

What?

 

nothing