The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    What do you think Obama and his kids did "wrong" from a moral standpoint? As for Biden, lots to look at, but nothing to see. So far, no evidence--just the usual right wing innuendo.
     
  2. Meliai

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    Doesnt answer my question. If Obama did exactly what Trump did, you would be fine with it?

    Let's just say Obama decided to help Hillary out during the 2016 election so he withheld aid money from the Ukraine until they coughed up some dirt on Trump, then he hid all evidence of this on a private server intended only for information classified for security purposes?

    That would have been fine with you?
     
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  3. onceburned

    onceburned Banned

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    how do we know Obama didn't do that too?
     
  4. onceburned

    onceburned Banned

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    would you have been ok if trump had known and kept quiet?
     
  5. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    How do we know you're not a pedophile? Presumption of innocence is a useful norm. There's no evidence that he did.
     
  6. Meliai

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    You're avoiding answering my question because you know you and all the other trumpers would be screaming for blood if Obama did this lol
    So now that we've established that hypocrisy.
     
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  7. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    I'll take this to mean.. No it wouldn't have been okay if Obama had done this.
     
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  8. onceburned

    onceburned Banned

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    I voted for Obama, and wish I hadn't
     
  9. onceburned

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    dems don't like trump, they would rather vote for Hillary, or some other corrupt shady politician
     
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  11. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Who knows? He might still do that. According to the most recent Realclear Politics poll average 9/16-9/24, it's still Biden ahead by 6.5 percentage points: Biden 27.8%, Warren21.3%, Sanders 17.5%. The race is far from over.
     
  12. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    How juvenile. Of course we could substitute any politician's head on that body. Trump's would do nicely, and the build and small hands fit perfectly. You seem unable to communicate by reasoned arguments and evidence. So typical of the Trump base.
     
  13. onceburned

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    creepy.jpg besides do we really need a touchy-feely creepy old man grabbing your kids ?

    wonder what he would try if he was alone with them?
     
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  14. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Nixon created the EPA by executive order and also supported NEPA, the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, and the Endangered Species Act, not to help the environment , nor "as a sop to the antiwar left" but to undercut Edmund Muskie, who he thought would be a likely rival in the '68 election.
     
  15. Okiefreak

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    Another cheap shot. What a mentality!
     
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  16. onceburned

    onceburned Banned

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    these are my views, and you have your views, but I'm not brow beating you over your views
     
  17. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Having views isn't good enough. In a discussion forum, you need to be able to defend them with reasoned arguments and evidence. Otherwise, they have little more value that inarticulate grunts.
     
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  18. Flagme15

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    In summation it's ok to vote for trump. because he is corrupt.
    are you still beating your wife?
     
  19. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Thanks, that was relatively concise.

    But no, I dont see anything illegall
    Campaign finance laws pertain to direct payments donations.
    Withholding aid, threatening to withhold aid isnt extortion

    Covering up, he wont take the fall,others might he didnt do it directly

    Your paragraph on impeachment talks about extreme cases on both ends. Little use of the impeachment process if its not going to remove that person from office. Doubt you ever get any pres removed from office for not breaking the law.

    Your other extreme of example of killing someone on live TV is nonsense

    I dont see anywhere where he did actually break a law. Impeachment, you'll never get majority in the senate anyway
     
  20. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Well, we can rule out congress ever voting to agree. Which leaves an indictable offense, and I just dont see where

    You can say extortion a hundred times, doesnt mean there is any evidence there that would ever mean a trial
     
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