The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    CNN just played a video of Troy Gonady explaining why the Clinton White House needs to comply with subpoenas and Congressional demands. Funny how Republicans flip-flop … as needed.
     
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  2. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Please let me digest that one … I'm … I'm feeling depressed all over a sudden …
     
  3. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    No, pretty much you're completely wrong.
     
  4. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    He did call himself John Barron.
     
  5. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Congress is looking to save their own asses, and if they can persuade Donald Duck to resign that's great, if not, we shall see just how badly both democrats and republicans have corrupted our entire system.
     
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  6. Flagme15

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    Yes, I agree. We should have never become involved in Middle East wars, but that does not give you the green light to abandon allies.
    So, according to trump, we won't be helping the Zionists in Israel if they become involved in a war. Sounds good to me.

    Trump defends Syria decision as Graham steps up criticism
     
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  7. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Its empire baby, and this train ain't stopping until she derails. The long list of nasty US involvements in the middle east were inevitable, because every empire only survives by controlling the distribution of goods and services. Note that both the US and the Soviets were basically fighting for influence in the region, and intent on domination of the world. We prevailed, and I could not be happier, but without the evil empire, the wolves turned on each other. Karma baby. What comes around goes around and around. With any luck, it won't get much worse than Donald Duck, because the US often pays it forward too. We are sometimes known as an enemy you can trust, to not be utterly evil like the Soviet empire, and come to even our enemy's rescue in the middle of a natural disaster. In Kuwait, when Stormin' Norman heard the news that the republican guard were being slaughtered along the one road out of Kuwait, he called off the attack to give them time to retreat. I poke fun at the man, but he knows how to get down on his knees.

    My father would always chuckle and say, "Without heart, ya got nothing."
     
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  8. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Another example of a total lack of respect for the troops. If a hippie like me says this you know it's an issue.

    Let's imagine Obama made the deaths of Americans and allies meaningless, let's imagine he said he liked people who were not captured. Let's say that Clinton had this Ukraine business and not just a BJ. Which issue would the right wing go for in his impeachment? Now it's nothing to the same people for cultural reasons. As a recent cop said in this link it's not really fact or logic it's good old alt-right race wars. I see this time after time. White people who are still mad the culture of 1959 no longer exists so they are "victims" since they can't dominate and are "forced" to deal with people who could never have the society they made. So if there is no Trump they have to sit next to black men on the bus and calling them a ****** gets them a meeting with HR.

    https://nypost.com/2019/09/26/ex-po...ate-crime-said-trump-is-last-hope-for-whites/

    It's OK if Mr. Orange does it to the same people who think kneeling is wrong or of course a salute with coffee in the hand. What do you think is more upsetting to the mother of a Marine. Someone kneels and my son is alive or my son died and it was for nothing?

    It's a cult. Anything done within is OK anything outside can never measure up to the (low) standards of the leader. If leader is wrong life is wrong and it's very hard to accept this. So no matter what excuses are made. It's why we need people to literally abduct and deprogram people in cults. Ukraine and all this is OK. If it's not than the people who say use whatever bathrooms and you don't need a gun are right. How can this be?

    My good friend helped to get some POWS a time or two. That POW comment is one that really sticks in the craw of higher up military. It's rude coming from anyone and it makes them quite sad to see that the oath they still uphold means Americans think this. It is free speech though. You have the right to be ignorant.
     
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  9. lode

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    Are you talking about Biden's being one of many many people to ask for the removal of Viktor Shokin a prosecutor who the IMF had blacklisted for corruption?

    How is that the same VG?
     
  10. egger

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  11. lode

    lode Banned

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    Impeached but not removed? Do those people think just Trump deserves a good talking to?
     
  12. egger

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    Poll Shows Dramatic Shift on Impeachment, Bad News for Trump
    A new poll shows the public mood on impeachment has shifted with nearly half of Americans supporting removing Trump.
    By Susan Milligan, Senior Politics Writer 
    Oct. 8, 2019

    https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...matic-shift-on-impeachment-bad-news-for-trump

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    "A strong majority of Americans support an impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump, and nearly half say he should be removed from office, according to a new Washington Post-Schar School poll released Monday. The numbers are potentially devastating to Trump, who has seen the public mood on impeachment move dramatically amid revelations he appeared to condition desperately-needed U.S. aid to Ukraine with help in his 2020 re-election bid.

    The survey found that 58% of Americans support the House of Representatives' "impeachment inquiry" of Trump, and 38% disapprove.

    Perhaps more troubling for the president, 49% said they agree that the House should actually impeach Trump and call for his removal from office."
     
  13. soulcompromise

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    I feel like he's vilifying republicans. I feel sorry for the men and women who support him because they're trying to do the right thing for their party.

    One thing I noticed: I posted about a reversal of the planned troop withdrawal; I thought they called it off. I was clearly wrong and now it would seem our allies are being shelled at the Syrian border. (I think I've got all that right this time; correct me if I'm wrong)
     
  14. egger

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    Trump’s Defiance of the House Inquiry Is Hard to Defend
    Cass R. Sunstein, Bloomberg
    October 9, 2019

    Trump’s Defiance of the House Inquiry Is Hard to Defend

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    "The House has already issued a subpoena, specifically focusing on the White House’s interactions with Ukraine. Compliance with a lawful congressional subpoena is not optional. The House can go to court and attempt to get the subpoena enforced. Alternatively, it can hold the recipient in contempt of Congress (that’s a misdemeanor, with a jail sentence).

    The largest response, of course, is an article of impeachment. There is precedent for that. During the Watergate affair, a majority of the House of Representatives voted in favor of this article:

    In his conduct of the office of President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon . . . has failed without lawful cause or excuse to produce papers and things as directed by duly authorized subpoenas issued by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives on April 11, 1974, May 15, 1974, May 30, 1974, and June 24, 1974, and willfully disobeyed such subpoenas. The subpoenaed papers and things were deemed necessary by the Committee in order to resolve by direct evidence fundamental, factual questions relating to Presidential direction, knowledge or approval of actions demonstrated by other evidence to be substantial grounds for impeachment of the President.

    Notably, the article added that Nixon was “substituting his judgment as to what materials were necessary for the inquiry” and thus “interposed the powers of the Presidency against the lawful subpoenas of the House of Representatives, thereby assuming to himself functions and judgments necessary to the exercise of the sole power of impeachment vested by the Constitution in the House of Representatives.”"
     
  15. Okiefreak

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    This is Fox, and we can see the first signs of weakening of Republican support for the Prez. Since July, support for impeachment increased 5 pointsamong voters of all stripes: up 11 points among Democrats, 5 points among Republicans and 3 among independents. Support also went up 5 points among white evangelical Christians , 8 points among white men without a college degree, and 10 points among rural whites--all key elements of the Trump voter base!
     
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  16. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    One of the all time stupidest comments I've ever heard from a world leader was Trump's remark today that he didn't feel obligated to the Kurds because they didn't help us at Normandy or in World War II. Is that a reasonable expectation, when no independent Kurdistan existed, the Kurds were located on another continent, and were being oppressed by Turkey, Iran and Iraq. They did help us out quite a bit with ISIS, though. This one ranks with Trump's remarks about the Air Force during the American Revolution and the Canadian invasion of Washington, D.C., as evidence that we have a world class dumdum in the Oval Office.
     
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  17. Flagme15

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    ABC News showed basically the thing, but going way back and showing Graham talking about how Nixon was wrong for obstructing justice. Like I've said before, republicans have short, and selective memories.
     
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  19. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Where did you get that from, how do you think the IMF "blacklists" an individual?

    Not doing enough against corruption so you dont end up in a ditch somewhere isnt the same as "for corruption" we are talking about the Ukraine.

    How is the fight against corruption in Ukraine going since his removal? Current prosecutor general doesnt even have a law degree

    How was Burisma investigated after Shokin was given the boot?
     
  20. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't know Trump has said some pretty stupid things in his day, ...lol...
     
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