Straight Pride Flops

I mean, you just glossed over everything that I said to make an irrelevant, wrong guess.

 

Wrong guess, hmm, yeah I dont think so

 

You realise that nothing about this exchange puts me under any obligation to share my coming out story with you, a complete stranger (nor do I have any inclination to do so). I know what happened to me and what I went through.

I'd also like to point out that my posts were in no way a slight against you or any other person, yet you feel the need to question something that is totally irrelevant to what I was saying. Especially considering the fact that the first post that you replied to isn't even about me in particular.

I'm sure you're a great person. You also don't know me, at all, you ignored the relevant stuff I said to take aim at my character and what I may or may not have been through. Why? Like really, unless this is a pointless troll, I have no clue what you're intentions are other than insulting the intelligence of strangers.

 

this seems to come up in everything political these days. pitting completely unrelated groups against each other for no apparent reason. i can't begin to guess how many memes i've seen that say things along the lines of "the democrats want to help foreign people even though veterans exist." as though helping foreign people somehow hurts the veterans, or likewise helping veterans would somehow hurt foreign people.

clearly you don't know VG either.

 

You summed up America in one paragraph. We are so convinced we are 100% equal and free some of us object to any discussion otherwise. The others get pulled into a debate about who needs help the most endlessly trying to show evidence of inequality.

 

The clue was the two words "coming out".

If you went through a process where at late teens or later you had to spell out to you parents or those around you that you were whatever; they were unaware up until that point, thus you werent obvious at 6 yrs old or 10 years old

Then you werent one of those LGBT 'kids' thus there is a bunch of stuff you never got to experience. If you are obvious at 6yrs old, you are either going to get attitude right in your face or not at all, there is no implicit stuff, no half way

Unlike there is if you look and act like everyone else and 'come out' at 19

Despite all todays PC nonsense, everyone still does it, will grade you relative to what they think a lesbian is, relative to every other lesbian they have met, celebrity ones

No use running around telling everyone you are a lesbian, they are friends with you for years, then tag along on a hens night and they see too many sideways glances from you to the hottest male stripper in the room. Soon as that happens, they will be like mmmm hmmm, ok...and all of a sudden you are only invited out when their husbands arent around.

So what I said is totally relevant, you are going to go most of your life not understanding why even saying 'coming out' automatically puts you in the B in LGBT

 

Jesus christ, are you misinformed. Why do you assume that someone that comes out at age 15-20 doesn't receive abuse from their family, isn't capable of being thrown out on the streets, can't possibly have the shit kicked out of them for holding someone else's hand? What the absolute fuck does "looking" like you're lgbt have to do with it?
When I say "kids" I mean teenagers. A 16 year old is a kid, my friend. A person that still depends on their parents, who are supposed to love them unconditionally, to survive is a fucking kid.

Also you're making a whole lot of incredibly ignorance-based homophobic assumptions. I would really like it if you educated yourself because it is certainly not my place to tell you that you do NOT know everyone's story and you most certainly shouldn't assume you do. You don't even know how old I am, at what age I came out, you made a whole lot of fucking assumptions that, once again, still don't require any refutal on my behalf because you're a stranger that, rather than trying to get to know me or asking me, is still making a fuck load of wrong, incredibly wrong assumptions.
I am the B in LGBT. Or do bisexual women not suffer homophobia and aggression? Just oversexualizing and ignorant comments claiming they we don't exist, right? You're incredibly ignorant and rude, mate. You don't know shit.

 

While he's expressing a different opinion, he's not actually being "rude" at all. If he was being rude to you, he might be calling you names or relying on virtue signaling hyperbole. Instead he's just giving his impression in basic terms. It's so far pretty tame stuff from him for you to be expressing hostility like this.

Ordinarily I don't circle the wagons, leastwise around 'Nilla G'rilla (who can basically go fuck himself sometimes as far as I'm concerned), this just seems like it's over the top for the discussion at hand.

 

There is a certain level of agro justified there in response to my post. But you went way above that

Straights guys dont really pay attention to that kind of stuff. But gay guys, lesbians and some of your straight female friends are going to notice pretty quickly if you get around a really hot guy and get all silly and flustered, they just need to see that once....but then after a while they notice they never see quite the same reaction from you no matter what lady you are around


You just called me ignorant and homophobic, are you telling me you dont worry your regular friends and any potential boyfriends may think you are a lesbian if you hang out with lesbians? Which is why you dont hang out with lesbians

 

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Actually I said you were making ignorance-based homophobic assumptions, which is not the same thing. You can make a homophobic comment that comes from a place of ignorance without it being malicious, the only solution for that is education.

Sorry if my response was too agro, but you're assuming a lot of stuff that is super far off the mark, mate. I came out at a young age, all of my friends know that I'm bi, my ex partners have all known, I have more lesbian girl-friends than I do straight, and more straight guy-friends than I do gay, none of them judge me in the way you seem to think that everyone does because a) I wouldn't hang with them if they did, b) Not everything is about sex and being into people, and c) I think you think I'm a lot older than I am.
So no, I don't worry about what other people perceive my sexuality to be because I know what I am and I'm comfortable with that. It would be a sad, sad life if I had to worry about what people would think of me because of who I hang out with or who I've been with. That's a terrible way to live.

I don't think you're a homophobe, I wouldn't be talking to you if I did and you probably wouldn't be talking to me if you were. I do think that you could stand to learn a bit more or maybe not make assumptions about pretty important periods in people's' lives.

(e2a: both my lgbt and straight friends are my "regular" friends and I wouldn't go near a guy who for a second got worried if I hung out with lesbians. That's toxic as shit.)

He's making assumptions about my life and turned my initial comment into a deep-dive into my life. If you really want to know something about someone, you ask them, If you're going to sit there and make assumptions on whether or not I experienced homophobia when coming out or whether or not I "look lgbt" or hang around with lesbians... If you're going to make absolute rotund affirmations about someone else's life that are wrong, and then when told that you're wrong, you keep on doing it, you're rude.

That said, sorry if it was too over the top, when absolute strangers try and explain my own life and my own experiences to me, I get a bit testy.