Will we impeach him this time?

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  1. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    The Ukraine president did in fact make a public response to Trump's request for investigation . He said if the U.S. Justice Dept. has
    initiated an investigation the Ukraine will , according to the treaty of mutuality , provide assistance .
     
  2. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    That is what I said in my own mind. Interesting to me how as a an American I have observed so much focus on race for Republican voters. If being white is such a dirty thing why do they worry about it.

    There are several areas that can get racist. My statements are only for America. What's right vs left varies. In the American context it's white people who like the idea that white Christians founded the country for white Christians. It's not right for others to take that from white people. The reason they don't get minority votes is this focus. It is their view that they are not racist. So all they can do is work so hard to hate on people like me and say I am the racist for calling a spade a spade.

    1. Black people are arrested more. This means they commit the most crime so I an all for blue and all lives mattering over black. BLM is a terrorist group that actuly hates us for our skin color. It's not for equality it is for oppressing white people. So a right wing voter will either casualty go alt-right or full on goose steeping in the street. In this example just like I said some people will say it is not racist to say this. It's only the data.

    2. Muslims have taken over Michigan and they will take over more. So it's important for me to make clear my white right wing Christian values matter.

    2 examples that you can easily find on Fox News where these voters themselves will embrace race. A core principal of alt-right thinking is people don't mix. If you don't look or think like me why would I talk to you? It's not natural since we all like to be with our own. Do you not see the inherent racism in that?

    I know none of this gets through to you so just consider this one thing. Why would a group who says it's the other guys who are racist use the phrase "it's OK to be white"? It's from a belief that others races oppress you and make you feel guilt. They focus on race.

    And where would such a phrase come from? The idea that WHITE people focus on what the WHITE race can do when it separates itself from the idea that slavery is their fault and they feel obligated to help others though "forced diversity". What is forced and what are you looking at that makes them different? Likely their skin color or religion.

    6 who has liked a few comments of people who disagree with me also went on a rant here on how white people are under attack in South Africa for these reasons. He said it was unfair to not acknowledge the plight of the white race there.

    So when they say the word white it's anti-race and when I do it's racist? What a weak argument.
     
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  3. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Ambassador Gordon Sondland testified he followed Trump’s orders to pressure Ukraine to conduct investigations into Mr. Trump’s political rivals in what he called a clear “quid pro quo” with the full knowledge of other top administration officials. Sondland Says He Followed Trump’s Orders to Pressure Ukraine
     
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  4. onceburned

    onceburned Banned

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    how come sondland didn't know this the first time he testified ?
     
  5. lode

    lode Banned

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    That's a good point. Why do all the presidents men are commit perjury?
     
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  6. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    So what?

    If Hunter Biden had been someone elses son. Would have been totally legit, still is


    Warren is now ahead of Biden Snr in some polls
     
  7. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    If Hunter Biden would have been someone else's son, Tump wouldn't have asked anyone to pressure Ukraine. Do you really think he was interested in rooting out corruption?
     
  8. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Yes

    If he was the son of another democrat not a presidential candidate, or just someone he didnt like, or just some prominent american.

    Trump didnt want the US to keep to keep paying a disproportionate amount for Nato either or felt you were getting stiffed by China on trade and acted

    Its all this thing rests on. That Biden is a presidential candidate

    Hunter being on that board was as shifty as fuck. End of story
     
  9. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Somebody might believe you. Thousands wouldn't.
     
  10. Flagme15

    Flagme15 Members

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    Why is it the job of the us to investigate corruption in other countries? We give millions of dollars to corrupt countries all over the world. Some of which the republicans like.
    Want to investigate corruption? Better start here, in 'murica.
     
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  11. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Your little Nurse Ratched led therapy session here at HF isnt reflective of reality

    Millions will, or more specifically arent going to give a shit about the Ukraine, especially a whole year from now
     
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  12. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Ha! Trump is interested in rooting out corruption?

    Like Trump university?
    Like pulling out of the Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative?
    Like his calling the U.S.’s Foreign Corrupt Practices Act a horrible law?
    Like his elimination of the Securities and Exchange Commission regulation that required oil and gas companies to disclose any payments they made to foreign governments.
    Like his refusal to divest his business interests when becoming president.
    Like his refusal to release his tax records.
    Like his son in law and daughter working in the white House.
    Like him collecting money from Air Force personal staying at his hotel.
    Like his racial discrimination.
    Like his links to the mafia.
    Like his undocumented workers.
    Like his casino fines.
    Like his anti trust violations.
    Like using donor money to buy his own books.
    Like his illegal Trump Foundation.
    Like his illegal Cuba dealings.

    And that's not all of them....is that what you mean?
     
  13. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    I still want to see the Deutsche Bank documents. Why did they give him all the loans when no one else would? Did he have a Russian cosigner?
     
  14. Wow that's a decent list.
     
  15. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    We need a new rallying cry!

    If you vote against
    IMPEACHMENT
    I'll vote against
    YOU!
     
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  16. But will they remember Swalwell?
    [​IMG]
     
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  17. lode

    lode Banned

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    Huh. I don't have this much blind faith in my own family.
     
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  18. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

    I'm already curious as to what we're going to call the thread examining Trump's next 4 years. Should it be "The Donald Trump Score Card II"? "Thank You Democrats For Helping Re-Elect A Complete Asshole"? "What Are We Gonna Impeach Him For This Time"?

    What are your ideas?
     
  19. lode

    lode Banned

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    "Trumps a **** dos: Voy a Mexico."
     
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  20. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Meh, it doesn’t rhyme
     
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