The General Election

VG

What a crock of shit.

This sounds like the ramblings of someone after half a bottle of whiskey or five joints

There is no rational argument, evidence or even knowledge

I mean what has Corbyn been white got to do with anything, what evidence have you that he is going to ignore young people and only help pensioners? What evidence have you that he’d do nothing about climate change student fees and working families the answer seems to be you have NOTHING except bitterness and bile.

 

VG

In fact publicly-owned rail is the norm in most of continental Europe. From France to Portugal, Spain to Germany, Italy to Poland, passenger rail is overwhelmingly run by the country's respective version of British Rail. Unlike in the UK, these were never privatised and broken up.

And what happened in the UK was that rail privatisation has been such a failure that most of it has already been nationalised with about three-quarters of the rail industry - the track, signalling and big stations - been taken back under public control already.

On top of that the Government has often had to take over rail franchises when the private owners had to pull out for example the failure of Stagecoach and Virgin Trains' East Coast Main Line franchise, which was handed back to the government and put back under public control (nationalised).

For fuck sake VG get you act together.

 

As my main job is a No2 in a small firm of Electricians undertaking new build work for a large UK House builder , I was encouraged by Labours new proposed Council House building and Social House building programme. If elected it will be the biggest council house build since 1977 . Many small businesses like ours in the construction industry will want a piece of that .

 

It seems to me that right wing politicians are counting on VG levels of ignorance and bias

Their view of what they see as the low level of education of the electorate seems to verge on contempt for it. It’s well know that Dominic Cummings whose running the campaign thinks most people are dumb and that attitude seems to have infected many Conservative politicians.

I’ve already mentioned Priti Patal metaphorically shitting on the carpet but other Tory ministers seem happy to spread the excrement around as well.

So we know have Michael Gove uttering bare faced lies and hoping the voters are so dumb they will just accept them (he was writing in the Daily Mail) . He claimed "Under EU rules, European nationals arriving here have preferential access to free NHS care whereas other migrants have to wait until they've paid into the system and secured settled status, a process which typically takes five years. It's unfair that people coming from European countries can access free NHS care without paying in while others make significant contributions."

Wrong on all accounts

In fact EU citizens do not have automatic rights to health systems in EU states, In the first three months, you are treated like a tourist with no rights, and after three months, unless you are working or are self-sufficient, then you have no rights to the NHS.

People from other EU countries working and living in the UK pay UK taxes contributing into the system and they still don’t get ‘preferential access’

Michael’s statement was not fact it was a xenophobic dog whistle designed to enrage the feelings of the Ill informed

THE FACTs are the NHS is under attack but not from the EU and supposedly sponging foreigners but from these same fucking Tories constantly defunding the service and trying to sell t off.

 

Mysteron

I agree and if we could also get it tried in to a Green Deal that would be even better.

There could be an emphasis on building new more energy efficient homes and subsidies for upgrading the existing stock (also for small wind turbines and solar panels) and most of the expertise on this seems to be in small firms (the big companies seem more interested in just building inefficient rabbit hutches) so it spreads the money around.

 

Your spot on

The big companies are quite greedy and only interested in profit. A typical case is with clients extras. We get under £20.00 for the supply and wiring of a double socket . The building company charge £100.00 to the customer for each additional socket they want . However I cant complain about the large companies too much as they do provide us with the work .

Another example was in the last recession ( 2012? ) when property prices were beginning to fall . Some of the large companies just suspend all of the sites and kept many of the houses off the market until favourable conditions returned. This is my main worry about Brexit as this scenario could raise its ugly head again .

 

A typical member of the scumbag 'nasty party' - an arrogant, ignorant, uncaring bastard !!!

Watch An Angry Mother Confront Dominic Raab Over Foodbanks

 

Something some of us have known for many decades, but now the Institute of Fiscal Studies has confirmed in statistical data - the scumbag 'nasty party' have systematically cost the poorest in the community the most in lost revenue, not because it was necessary per se, but because it was idealogically deemed appropriate - BASTARDS !!!

Poor hit twice as hard as rich by tax-and-benefit changes since Conservatives came to power, analysis finds

 

He said he'd freeze the pension age and build 100,000 council flats a year

What a twit, talk about out of touch, even used the word "manifesto" in Labours policy title.

Might as well just hand the election to Boris now

 

From the very article you linked:


"The analysis, by the Institute for Fiscal Studies, also points out that pensioners have been “broadly protected” since 2010 – enjoying a small rise in their incomes.

The decade has been marked by above-inflation increases in the state pension – while working-age benefits have been cut sharply in real terms"

So, time to cut those pension benefits ( to old farts) to help young families and the working poor

 

How much will the Labour manifesto actually cost? | Metro News


The fun stuff:

"Labour will introduce 12 tax changes to raise an additional £83 billion a year to fund its spending commitments.

Corporation tax will rise to 26 per cent to raise £24 billion, and a new financial transactions tax will raise £8.8 billion.

Labour say they will also raise £14 billion with a tax on capital gains and dividends in line with income tax rates.

A second homes tax, which will be equivalent to 200 per cent of the property’s council tax bill, will be introduced, while Conservative cuts to inheritance tax will be reversed.

Additional income tax paid by those earning more than £80,000 and a hit on those classified as ‘super-rich’ – earners taking home more than £125,000 – would rake in £5.4 billion.

Other incentives, such as hammering down on tax evasion, and imposing VAT on private schools, would bring that pot up to the required £83 billion, according to Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell’s workings.

IFS director Paul Johnson said it’s ‘quite doubtful’ Labour would be able to raise around £80 billion from tax rises."


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So he wants to raise company tax whilst at the same time upping the minimum wage

Slap that ridiculous 20% VAT on private schools.

 

£75 billion for 150,000 new homes a year fir 5 years. 100,000 being council flats 50,000 "super affordable" homes

150,000 x 5 years = 750,000

£75 billion / 750,000 = £100,000

So he is going to get these built for £100,000 each, and that would include the cost of the land

Lolz

 

That stupid bastard Boris has apparently promised to recruit 50,000 more nurses for the NHS, but with placements on nurse training only able to take 25,000 its clear that the remainder would need to be recruited from abroad, however, such policy then contradicts the scumbag 'nasty party's' immigration policy !!!

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2019/11/...es-promised-by-tories-a-would-need-to-come-f/

 

Could Boris and a handful of other scumbag 'nasty party' MPs all lose their seats due to tactical voting ??? - there is, it seems a distinct liklihood !!!

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2019/11/...ior-tories-at-risk-of-losing-seat-in-tactica/

 

Hi VG

That's not quite as daft as it sounds . The House Builder we work for currently assigns a small percentage of the housing stock over for Affordable Housing and Shared Ownership . These are standard stock houses that are actually finished to a higher standard usually with extra ventilation and recessed ceiling lights from our electrical point of view . They would typically sell for £150K and upwards . They are usually operated and owned by some Housing Association which has access to Government funding .

So what Labour are proposing in theory isn't much different to what's already happening under the current Tory rule . The main difference is the scale of things. This would be done on a much bigger scale.

The problem Labour will have in building on such a scale is management of costs . Because private companies like ours are not charitable run organisations . We are in it to make money and will therefore charge as much as we can get away with, for the work needed. That IMO is the biggest challenge that any Government whether it be Tory , Labour or who ever ,is the containment of costs because the past record isn't very good. You only need to look at the costs of the various HS1 and HS2 rail projects and how over budgeted these projects are with very little work done so far.

Kind Regards

Mysteron

 

VG

Sorry I went through all of your recent post and there are no rational counter arguments, I mean nothing, zilch

I mean ok you are clearly opposed to the Labour Party but you don’t seem able to explain why in any coherent way all we get is blind bias.

You once more sneer and snipe but have you anything of substance to give or rational point to make?

 

Do you trust the right wing with the NHS?

We had the NHS lies on the big red bus

Then we had the 40 new hospitals that actual turned out to be only 6

And now we have the promise of 50,000 new NHS nurses – except 19, 0000 are already nurses and 11,0000 will be foreign recruited nurses (that might not come because of Brexit as they will have to pay to stay in the UK). Also the costing of the proposal does not seem to cover the actual cost.

Will a Conservative government deliver 50,000 more nurses?

Oh they have promised to bring back nursing bursaries but then it was them that took it away anyway and were told at the time that it would be a bad ideas so does anyone thing it will be safe from future cuts?

 

Another scumbag 'nasty party' gaff !!! - I wonder how many more they will make before the electorate catch on to their stupidity ???

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2019/11/25/tory-candidate-caught-on-camera-arranging-friendly-door-knock/

 

This nurse thing is an absolute disgrace but in my opinion what is even more disgraceful is the fact that a great deal of the population will take that 50,000 on face value without either scrutinising the figure or caring if it a piece of lying, manipulating bullshit as long as Brexit is done! I truly despair for the future of this country!

 

Oops !!! - this will please VG & Boozecruiser no end !!!

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2019/11/...lead-over-labour-narrow-to-7-points-icm-poll/