Will we impeach him this time?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by newo, Sep 28, 2019.

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  1. I'm really not into being anybody's "fan", but that was one of Ayn's better books. The sheer lunacy of the elitists in the face of practicality and hard facts was well illustrated.
     
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  2. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    If Ayn Rand can be said to be an expert on anything, its insanity.
     
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  3. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Ayn Rand and her fictional character John Galt were elitists' elitists.
     
  4. No argument from me. However, the architect in The Fountainhead was a departure which she emphasized by having him work in a quarry breaking rocks like an inmate when his design career hits a snag. He even has to work through a front man which ends in disaster as an entire apartment complex is rendered from a modern, sleek village to archaic Greek vomit and columns. He manages to rise again by designing gas stations and fast food joints. Her "happy" ending was kind of weird as well.
     
  5. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Forgive me for trying to get back on the subject, but I quote:

    "After two weeks of public hearings, Democrats could soon turn the impeachment process over to the House Judiciary Committee. They’re moving “expeditiously” ahead as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has instructed.

    At some point in the coming weeks, the House intelligence panel will submit a report to the Judiciary panel, and then Democrats will consider drafting articles of impeachment on President Donald Trump’s dealings with Ukraine and the administration’s attempts to block the investigation. The articles could cover matters beyond Trump’s efforts to push Ukraine to investigate
    Democrats, including special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, but no decisions have been made.

    There could be several steps along the way, including a Judiciary committee vote, a House floor vote and, finally, a Senate trial."


    So now we sit and wait. I'm concerned that it will all die in the Senate trial. Pressure needs to be put on the Republican Senators that supporting Trump is career suicide. IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH!
     
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    That was to show that the Ubermensch will overcome any obstacle through superior intelligence, hard work and will. And the only reason minorities and the underclass doesn't do it is cuz they're lazy, stupid., and looking to others to take care of them.
     
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    Another thing to consider is that during the Senate trial, Senators (and candidates) Warren, Sanders, Harris, Klobuchar, and Booker will have to be there in Washington at the trial, away from the campaign trail, but as jurors won't be able to speak during the proceedings. Good for Biden and Buttigeg, but maybe not for all Democrat voters, since there isn't a snowball's chance of conviction. That's another reason why I think they should do a motion of censure and move on--although the prospect of Trump testifying and being cross-examined is intriguing.
     
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    Unfortunately they see it as career advancement....
     
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    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Republican House member and minority leader Devin Nunes was directly involved in the Biden investigations!
    Another of Parnas' attorneys, Joseph A. Bondy, reports that Parnas is ready to testify to that fact to the House Intelligence Committee.
    The plot thickens. This revelation spreads the conspiracy beyond the white House and Giuliani. Nunes will probably face another ethics hearing at the least.
     
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  10. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Again, the Republicans lost some key elections this year. Perhaps they're banking on all of this to blow over and for Trump to be "exonerated". I Don't think that's going to happen.
     
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  11. Trump doesn't have to be exonerated. That's not how it works.
     
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  12. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    And Trump is raising money for Republicans who will be serving as his jurors.
     
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    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    And some top Democrats have become aware that Trump is raising money for his jurors.
     
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    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    The republican party no longer exists, welcome to Libertarian Paradise.
     
  15. I reckon he will get impeached. There are shitloads of rumours to get him on. Lots of info that he's deemed as fake news that are actually being investigated.
    you only have to look at this one

    Remember Bill Clinton was the last guy to be impeached
     
  16. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I'm talking about being exonerated in the eyes of voters. Trump may beat the charges due to Republican support but if people still
    believe he's guilty then all this could get him, and many of his supporters, voted out of office in 2020.
     
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  17. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Donald Duck was elected against the wishes of his own republican party leaders, because the republican party no longer exists. Libertarian Paradise is the lynch mob attacking the same people they elected. Without rule of law, ya got nothing, zero, zip, nada, bupkus, and if 80 million conservatives insist Donald Duck should be above the law, rule of law is the last thing that is possible. Can you feel the love and pride America? Didn't think so.
     
  18. I don't see where he's in trouble with voters at this particular point. I don't think the democrats have presented a compelling case, there are too many leaks and too many contradictions between actual testimony and and how that testimony is presented. This whistle blower nonsense is a prime example. Instead of being a person who informs after being given an illegal order, the way we define it seems to be based on the feelings of a non-witness to a non-event. Or worse, it's a 3rd party interpretation of hearsay.

    If the case against Trump was SO rock solid, why the weird little games around the edges? Why the steady inflation of molehills to mountains, most of which aren't impeachable issues in the first place, they're just designed to gum up the works with endless testimony. I don't think the voters are going to punish Trump, he addresses actual issues. The democrats are running on how much they hate Trump with barely a word about any realistic advantages for the American people.

    It's almost as if the democrats have a collective disdain for Americans. Surely that can't be true.

    What's really sad is that Trump was once a darling of the democrats and he gave to them generously and with a lot of class. They should have engaged him, even if they were faking it. They should have reached out. Instead, not a full day after taking the oath, all the shit begins. The left and the media were chomping at the bit to let fly against Trump. It's obvious there was a lot of coordination since the talking heads were all blabbing the same tunes "bombshell", "walls are closing in" and the like. I think an opportunity for unity was squandered by petty personality issues.
     
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  19. You're talking about a man who is accused of raping a thirteen year-old and has aligned us with the dictatorships of the world. I know his cock is appealing, but take it out of your mouth for five seconds and catch your breath.
     
  20. The republican ideals still exist, but I agree with you that the republican establishment is in serious trouble. Too many republicans are tired of watching their representatives take it on the chin so readily. All a democrat has to do is accuse a republican of one of the -isms, and it totally shuts them down, white flag time. Romney is a great example, so is McCain.
     
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